France – needing a steady hand on the tiller ahead + Jupiter Neptune

The France presidential elections due in April 2022 are hotting up with the four front runners spotlighted – Emmanuel Macron, the centrist president, centre-right Valerie Pecresse, far-right Eric Zemmour and equally far-right Marine Le Pen.

What’s clear from the France chart is that there will be widespread confusion, turbulence and upset which may not all be connected to the election but will have a bearing on it. Tr Pluto will square the France Neptune from March onwards bringing a widespread sense of devastation. With the France revolutionary and angry T Square of Uranus opposition Pluto square Mars being triggered from two directions. The Solar Arc position of the Fr Uranus opposition Pluto will sit directly on top of France’s Venus, which could be a considerable financial upset, though the economic news at present is relatively promising. The other is tr Saturn throwing cold water on the revolutionary T square from March 2022, on and off into 2023. It will be particularly noticeable in May just after the  new President takes up the reins from 13th May.

  France will be shaken to its core either by external events or – it it isn’t a stretch – by having made a quirky election choice and having panicky second thoughts after the event.

  Macron, 21 December 1977 10.40 am Amiens – a Sun and three planets in Sagittarius with a flamboyant Mars in Leo in his 7th and Taurus Moon –  was a surprise winner last time round with his reforming, upbeat approach which ran into the usual intransigence about changing the sclerotic top-heavy state sector. He has tr Saturn now moving below his Ascendant into his lower-profile, less successful quadrant. Which doesn’t mean he won’t win since that can take a while to kick in but he will be sailing into the wind. He’s feeling unloved running into the elections and nerve-shattered over the result.

  Valerie Pecresse, 14 July 1967, 12.10am Neuilly Sur Seine is a Sun Cancer sextile Uranus Pluto in Virgo and trine Neptune, widely square Mars in Libra in her 7th. Tr Pluto is in a frustratingly blocked square to her Mars through February to mid March so she’ll have a tough run up. Tr Saturn is better placed for her than Macron. But her Solar Arc Neptune is opposition her Mercury which will not give her a clear head for campaigning or laying out a strategy.

 Marine Le Pen, 5 August 1968 11.20am Neuilly Sur Seine – a Sun Venus in Leo with an ambitious 10th house Mars in Cancer in a publicity-attracting trine to Neptune, sextile a chaotic Uranus Pluto in her 12th; and a Saturnine Yod onto Pluto Uranus sextile Neptune with her Saturn square Mars. She’s a complicated, hard-edged, erratic personality who keeps trying and keeps running into setbacks. Tr Pluto is square her Saturn this month which is discouraging and moving on to oppose her Mars in 2023/24 which is very stuck. Her Solar Arc Pluto is also in a blocked square to her Sun now and her Solar Arc Mars in an even more trapped and irritating conjunction to her Pluto now and still in effect over the election – presumably downcast and enfuriated with Eric Zemmour stealing her thunder.

  Eric Zemmour, 31 August 1958 6.45 am Montreuil – is a controlling Sun Pluto in Virgo with an argumentative Mars in Taurus in his 9th and Saturn in Sagittarius in his 4th – not an easy man to warm to. Just to be difficult he has tr Pluto square his Jupiter over the election from March onwards which can be successful and is certainly confident. But at the same time tr Pluto is square his Sun/Saturn midpoint which can be depressing and sometimes coincides with health issues  Plus a couple of Neptunian enthusiasm-dampers.

  The usual muddle and ambivalence in all the charts. What is for sure is it will be a pivotal election.

ADD ON: Tr Neptune Jupiter in Pisces are also conjunct the France South Node. Jupiter Neptune in mundane terms often  coincides with financial bubbles bursting, which fits its standard meaning of ‘false happiness’ – overly inflated expectations. Ebertin has it as – poor speculation, a scandal caused through one’s own instability, losses, political conflicts. Visionaries, dreamers, hypocrites.

Thanks to Candy for: ‘The last time there was a Jupiter-Neptune conjunction in Pisces was in 1856.

Late May- early June 1856 was marked in France by a sudden and massive rise in the water levels of major French rivers. The flood of 1856 went down as one of the major floods in the history of France.

There was also a boom in France (including a massive stock market bubble where stocks rose by 50% in 1855-1856) and then a crash and recession in 1857-1858.’

16 thoughts on “France – needing a steady hand on the tiller ahead + Jupiter Neptune

  1. ‘France to be shaken to its core’ is out there already. Where I live, people definitely have a real sense of impending doom.
    Marjorie, is it likely that this election will yet again have a front runner ‘removed’ as per Mr Fillon and Mr Strauss Khan in the last two? Their disappearance enabled the success of Mr Macron, a virtual unknown with no party organisation and Mr Holland, an apparatchik nonentity.

  2. There’s a BBC article about Valérie Pécresse. Might be useful reading. “https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59590518”

    “Unlike Marine Le Pen, she’s seen as a credible candidate to win, and so it signals a kind of freshness that says: I am renewing the political landscape in France…”

    Thanks.

  3. Jane, maybe its different in Geo political terms but i have Jupiter conjunct Neptune natally and its woefully naive. You don’t hope for the best but prepare for the worst, the best, until the inevitable hangover is all there is! It can be great for an injection of positivity though and i suspect if there is any such thing as ‘manifesting’ a wish this aspect may help. There is though an issue with being taken advantage of by people not acting in good faith.

    I have not seen what agenda they are each running on but maybe, something promised close to the heart of the French National Psyche (south node) or someone considered safe hands will end up anything but. Thats hardly a unique prediction though where politics is concerned.

  4. To Linda: you are right, especially with the Macrons, who have a symbiotic and passionate relationship.
    A famous journalist recently said: “With the Macrons, you have two for the price of one!”

  5. Thank you so much for this analysis, Marjorie !
    Indeed, the stakes are huge, and it’s the 1st time two nationalist candidates are among the four front runners…
    During Zemmour’s first rally, thousands cheered every mention of reducing immigration and booed every reference to Macron Fighting also broke out and chairs were thrown, as activists stood up with “No to Racism” written on their T-shirts.
    This shows the state the country is in !
    Whatever happens, Zemmour has already succeeded in making immigration one of the main topics of the election campaign.

  6. I don’t know what to make of this exactly, but the Jupiter-Neptune conjunction in Pisces in April 2022 will be conjunct the South Node in the national chart for France. Confusing karma of some kind, delusions, scandals?

    • I’m never quite sure how to pin Jupiter Neptune down – out in the celestial world of real events it coincides with financial bubbles bursting, which fits its standard meaning of ‘false happiness’ – overly inflated expectations.
      It can be a guru-chaser and attracted to flaky spiritual beliefs. But is also found in high-finance charts of financiers who dream about stratospheric amounts of money which they sometimes accumulate.
      Ebertin has it as – poor speculation, a scandal caused through one’s own instability (Boris Johnson?), losses, political conflicts. Visionaries, dreamers, hypocrites.

      • Thank you Marjorie – it stood out for me partly because this conjunction is in Pisces. A popular collective noun these days is “a tsunami” of something – whether covid infections, or migrants, or failing businesses. That seems very Jupiter-Neptune in Pisces somehow. What you say about spiritual beliefs is interesting, again with Pisces emphasising that. And maybe conspiracy theories/beliefs as well? It’s with the South Node in the France chart, so large numbers of people or voters could be involved. We shall see.

    • The last time there was a Jupiter-Neptune conjunction in Pisces was in 1856.

      “Late May- early June 1856 was marked in France by a sudden and massive rise in the water levels of major French rivers. The flood of 1856 went down as one of the major floods in the history of France.”

      There was also a boom in France (including a massive stock market bubble where stocks rose by 50% in 1855-1856) and then a crash and recession in 1857-1858.

  7. They say a week is a long time in politics. It won’t even be half way through Biden’s term till next November. But if you think he’s on his way out, perhaps a look at the Secretary of State would be worthwhile.

    Back to France, I wonder what Mrs Macron’s chart is showing at the time of the elections. Indeed at all the significant other’s charts might be very interesting indeed!

  8. “And looking at what is happening to the US just before its Pluto Return, I expect a far-right President at either this election or the next election.”
    Just to clarify, the reference to elections in this sentence is to elections in France.

  9. France is soon due for a Pluto Return (in 2040).

    And looking at what is happening to the US just before its Pluto Return, I expect a far-right President at either this election or the next election.

    ” by having made a quirky election choice and having panicky second thoughts after the event.” – So, something like Brexit.

    Marjorie, can I request you to expand the article with an overview of how the elections would impact the EU and Franco-German relations, especially now that Olaf Scholz has taken over as German chancellor?

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