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Donald Trump was just found guilty on 34 felony charges. Whether he goes to prison or not remains to be seen. However, this will likely hurt him among many undecided voters.
The timing for all of this is interesting. One Vedic astrologer I’ve been following for many years predicted Trump would be convicted by the end of May (and this prediction was made back in mid-2023). They also predicted Joe Biden’s fortunes would change for the better after June 1.
Amazing, thank you
Trump found guilty on all counts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On the BBC feed, he looks like he is going to cry.
Such unexpected emotion on that visage!
Did his make up run?
What a historic day and he still comes out stating ” the case was rigged and the real outcome will be on the 5 November”. Does he have no shame.
Unfortunately, he can still stand for President from inside prison. If he goes to prison at all. Hard to know what can prevent him from running? Interesting how this verdict might confirm his natal chart – tr Uranus in money-minded Taurus is conjunct his MC right now. Also, tr Mars and Chiron in the potentially ‘legal’ 9th house are square natal Saturn in Cancer (plus Venus)in the 11th house of groups. Probably comes as a shock to him, by the looks of it.
Trump finally won a popular vote!
Really looking forward to what I hope Marjorie is going to write on tomorrow.
Sentencing is on July 11th…. the Republican Convention is on July 15th! Will he be doing his keynote speach from prison?
Wall Street Journal is writing: Mexico Is About to Elect Its First Female President. Her Job: Save the Nation.
What are Claudia Sheinbaum’s and Mexico’s fortunes?
Also the chances of her rival Xochitl Galvez.
Marjorie, I would like to request a post from you covering the topic of how/whether astrology can help people to embody their ‘true selves,’ if possible.
I’m still struck by your post covering Kristi Noem’s chart (9th May 2024). I noticed it because her chart is very similar indeed to mine, but what I keep thinking about is how little she seems to be embodying or living out that strongly positioned Jupiter in Sagittarius.
It got me thinking: does a natal chart reveal ‘who someone is,’ or would it be more accurate to say it reveals who they/we could be – IF they/we really listened within and were determined to follow their own true path?
Or, do you think it is the case that someone like Kristi Noem is just very closed off from the voice of her true self (as is true for so many people)? Has she simply become brainwashed by her environment (or early childhood conditioning), thus making her effectively deaf to the whispers from her soul…?
Having watched the excellent new drama ‘A Small Light’ I would like to know more about Miep Gies. She helped hide the Frank family plus another family and her dentist during the second world war. It was a full time job finding food for everyone. She was very brave, ditto her husband and her colleagues.
Thank you Marjorie.
Science is still only a candle glimmering in a great pitch-dark cavern.” Mario Vargas Llosa
“No part of the aim of normal science is to call forth new sorts of phenomena; indeed those that will not fit the box are often not seen at all.” Dean Radin.
Kohler: Each science has a sort of attic into which things are almost automatically pushed that cannot be used at the moment, that do not quite fit …We are constantly putting aside, unused, a wealth of valuable material [which leads to] blocking of scientific progress.
“The rise of modern science has brought with it increasing acceptance among intellectual elites of a picture of reality that conflicts sharply both with everyday human experience and with beliefs widely shared among the world’s great cultures.” Edward F Kelly: Beyond Physicalism.
“Theory is all very well, but it doesn’t prevent things from existing.” Freud
Physicist Nils Bohr “defining an event requires two entirely opposing and contradictory views of it, both of which are true”.
It could all be true, but would you fly on a plane whose foundational principles are not scientific or let someone who is not a qualified medical doctor perform a complicated procedure to save a life? Yes, there probably were shamans who saved a whole lot of people, but that doesn’t detract from power of science and many benefits it brought into our daily well-being. It is all a slippery slope, picthing science against more metaphysical fair.
I am also reminded of the so-called black box problem with today’s neural networks – we have no idea fully how they make decisions, and that is why no one will give them the power, for now, to decide on their own in important matters.
Same can be said of astrology – no one will give it that power, because we are so far from how this works and how it doesn’t.
To quote the meaning of the High Priestess card in the tarot once again: this is all still the future as yet unrevealed. Some things remain out of our reach, and might stay that way forever.
Go read – Beyond Physicalism: Toward Reconciliation of Science and Spirituality Hardcover 2015 by Edward F. Kelly (Editor), Adam Crabtree (Editor), Paul Marshall (Editor)
‘Most contemporary scientists and philosophers believe that reality is at bottom purely physical, and that human beings are nothing more than extremely complicated biological machines. On such views our everyday experiences of conscious decision-making, free will, and the self are illusory by-products of the grinding of our neural machinery. It follows that mind and personality are necessarily extinguished at death, and that there exists no deeper transpersonal or spiritual reality of any sort. Beyond Physicalism is the product of an unusual fellowship of scientists and humanities scholars who dispute these views. In their previous publication, Irreducible Mind, they argued that physicalism cannot accommodate various well-evidenced empirical phenomena including paranormal or psi phenomena, postmortem survival, and mystical experiences. In this new theory-oriented companion volume they go further by attempting to understand how the world must be constituted in order that these “rogue” phenomena can occur. Drawing upon empirical science, metaphysical philosophy, and the mystical traditions, the authors work toward an improved “big picture” of the general character of reality, one which strongly overlaps territory traditionally occupied by the world’s institutional religions, and which attempts to reconcile science and spirituality by finding a middle path between the polarized fundamentalisms, religious and scientific, that have dominated recent public discourse.’
all in the Atharvaveda…1200 BCE
Thanks, Marjorie – A quote from Seth, channeled by Jane Roberts: “We are indeed dealing with two entirely different approaches to reality and to solving problems — methods we will here call the rational method and the magical one. The rational approach works quite well in certain situations, such as mass production of goods, or in certain kinds of scientific measurements — but all in all the rational method, as it is understood and used, does not work as an overall approach to life, or in the solving of problems that involve subjective rather than objective measurements or calculations. The magical approach has far greater weight, if you use it and allow yourselves to operate in that fashion, for it has the weight of your basic natural orientation.”
― Jane Roberts- Seth
I asked ChatGPT “What can you tell me about the problem of falsifiability and astrology?”
Here is what it said:
“Falsifiability is a key principle in the philosophy of science, introduced by philosopher Karl Popper. It asserts that for a theory to be considered scientific, it must be testable and capable of being proven false. In other words, there must be conceivable evidence or observations that could show the theory to be incorrect.
When it comes to astrology, the problem of falsifiability becomes quite pronounced. Astrology is the belief that the positions and movements of celestial bodies (such as stars and planets) can influence human behavior and events on Earth. Here are a few key points related to the problem of falsifiability and astrology:
1. **Lack of Clear Predictions**: Astrological predictions are often vague and general, making it difficult to test them in a rigorous, scientific manner. For example, a horoscope might say, “You will face challenges today,” which is a statement that could apply to almost anyone on any given day. Because the predictions are not specific, it is hard to determine whether they are truly accurate or simply broad enough to fit many situations.
2. **Post Hoc Rationalizations**: When astrological predictions appear to come true, adherents often cite this as evidence of astrology’s validity. However, these successful predictions are often the result of confirmation bias, where people remember the hits and forget the misses. Additionally, if a prediction does not come true, astrologers can often provide a rationalization or adjustment to the interpretation, which makes the theory unfalsifiable.
3. **Scientific Testing**: Various scientific studies have tested astrological predictions and found no statistically significant evidence to support them. For instance, double-blind tests where subjects are given astrological readings and then asked to match them to their own lives have shown that people are no better than chance at identifying their own horoscope.
4. **Astrology vs. Astronomy**: Unlike astrology, astronomy is a science that makes precise and falsifiable predictions. For example, astronomers can predict solar eclipses, planetary movements, and the behavior of celestial bodies with high accuracy. The success of these predictions is based on empirical data and rigorous testing, which contrasts sharply with the anecdotal and untestable nature of astrological claims.
5. **Theoretical Basis**: Astrology lacks a coherent theoretical framework that can be tested and potentially falsified. Scientific theories, such as the theory of gravity, provide specific mechanisms and predictions that can be scrutinized through experimentation and observation. Astrology, on the other hand, does not provide such mechanisms and often relies on mystical or supernatural explanations that fall outside the realm of scientific inquiry.
In summary, astrology faces significant challenges regarding falsifiability. Its predictions are often too vague to be tested.”
And yesterday we’ve had the last aspect of the Moon before it changed signs, and it was a square to Neptune.
A few days ago I wanted to buy an item and the saleswoman told me to come on Saturday. Yesterday I went during that aspect, and she was not there (Moon – woman square [negative emanation] gone – Neptune). She didn’t lie to me – I was just a little early probably.
So astrology can sometimes be too literal. And such instances pull you in the other direction, believing it works.
@El Aznar
In my view astronomy deals with the physical body of the stars therefore easier to measure, astrology deals with the more fluid life of soul so difficult to understand and pin down.
Do any Americans have any thoughts on daughter Ashley Biden – there is an alarming piece in the Daily Mail which can’t all be right wing smears.
I found the article from the Daily Mail you’re referring to. Yes, it is indeed a shocking (and very disturbing piece) and the photographs of Hunter Biden’s sexual escapades (which I hadn’t been exposed to until finding that article) only made it worse.
Granted, for what it’s worth, I noticed that Media Bias Factcheck gives Daily Mail a low credibility rating:
According to Media Bias Factcheck (regarding the Daily Mail) their findings:
Questionable Reasoning: Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy, Some Fake News, Numerous Failed Fact Checks
Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW
Country: United Kingdom
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Newspaper
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY
I know the Ashley Biden diary story has been covered by other sources – but mostly celebrity and pop culture magazines as well as far-right news outlets. None of the standard newspapers or news magazines appear to be covering this story. If they are, then they’re not making headlines at the moment.
I read that Snopes verified the contents of the Ashley Biden’s diary to be true. Plus, Ashley Biden verified the diary as being authentic herself. However, also according to Snopes and VerifyThis, Ashley Biden claimed the contents of her diary were manipulated, misinterpreted, and distorted.
Anyway, there hasn’t been enough information presented for me to formulate a judgement. I would be horrified if story turned out to be true in the way right-wing media has presented it. However, I suppose only Ashley Biden can herself can prove or disprove all of this. So far, she appears adamant that her writings were taken out of context.
Years ago the News of the World which was a scurrilous rag and not what you might think of as reliable was often the only paper with the guts to print sordid stories that often turned out to be only too accurate. No one else would touch them. Not because the info was wrong but they were scared of repercussions.
Very true Marjorie. It was The National Enquirer here that exposed that John Edwards fathered a child with his mistress while his wife was dying of cancer. He was running for Vice President.
Personally, I don’t see any manipulation or distortion.
@Maggie, you need to look at her writings in the context of her being in rehab at the time, overcoming a drug addiction, which seems a predisposition in her family. Memories can be distorted in that context, especially if extracts are selectively edited.
I remember my ramblings into a tape recorder (remember those?) after leaving therapy sessions in my 30s, full of all sorts of wild charges against my sister and parents. Those impressions changed and mellowed over time, as I realized they (mostly) were doing the best they could under the circumstances with the character traits they brought to the relationship.
Marjorie, I’d be interested in your astrological take on the vulnerability and unflattering exposure that Ashley Biden and Hunter Biden pose for President Biden. Both children are making news related to court proceedings; the case involving Ashley’s somewhat provocative diary and Hunter’s trial for gun charges.
A reflection of transiting Pluto squaring the president’s 5th House Moon?
American political activist here — I think that people — myself included — write things in journals that are the product of mental meanderings and fraught emotions, especially when we’re going through tough times. I know I’ve written things in my journal that I ‘d be horrified to see the light of day because I can’t vouch for their actual truth. And I know that my stepson wrote things about his father that are patiently untrue — like charges of murder — just to make himself feel better.
Ashley was in drug treatment at the time she wrote her journal. Was what she wrote true or was it the result of her troubled mind at the time? I have no way of knowing. Only Ashley does. Growing up in an intense political environment is tough on kids and the trauma of that constant scrutiny can affect a kid’s perception. I’d let Ashley speak for herself.
I think the fact that these revelations came through the viile, always-distorting Project Veritas and the Daily Mail and that Ashley herself says they were misrepresented makes it less likely that they’ll gain traction politically. Also, the right-wingers discredit themselves by focusing constantly on the Biden family’s alleged misdeeds while totally ignoring Trump’s well-documented crimes and public statements about his sex life, including his publicly admitted lusting after daughter Ivanka.
There’s just no moral equivalency here, despite Republicans’ efforts to make up allegations against Biden.
With known Russian, Chinese and Iranian interference in Western elections and anticipated typical dirty tricks augmented by deep fakes and AI, I truly fear for the survival of Western and especially American democracy. I’m dreading the run-up to November.
@ Nicole Sours Larson,
I agree with everything you said. We live in era where exposure to disinformation is now the new normal, where journalism has become much too editorialized and sensationalized, and where social media can shape or influence public opinion in a matter of minutes.
It’s almost impossible to read anything without feeling the need to fact-check given the atmosphere of conclusion and uncertainty these days.
Regarding Ashley Biden’s diary, I decided to reserve judgement since the information presented is limited and anecdotal.
You are absolutely right; only Ashley Biden herself can confirm or debunk the meaning of her writings.
I will say this: I’ve known people who are survivors of sexual abuse and it’s definitely the kind of trauma that stays with an individual throughout their life.
Ashley Biden, so far, has defended her father and has repeatedly stated that the contents of her dairy that were exposed to the world to see where taken out of context.
Also, she appears to have a good relationship with her father (which I would think would think would be nonexistent if her father had sexually abused her). So, I really don’t know what to think about all of this.
I just think it would be unfair to the Biden Family (especially to Ashley Biden herself) to assume we know what happened to her or to condemn Joe Biden without any empirical evidence whatsoever.
My advice is to never write your thoughts down in a diary or a journal unless you are comfortab le with your family finding it when cleaning out your home once you have passed
Hmm. Granted that no one this side of an asylum wants Trump elected, it bothers me that stories about the Biden family are instantly written off as smears. As far as I gather it the Ashley diary was initially classified as a ‘fake story’ until she verified its existence in a letter to the judge trying those who published it. Ditto the Hunter Biden horror stories.
Biden has a 5th house Moon being squared this year by tr Pluto square – children to a degree are his Achilles Heel.
Good point, Marjorie. Seems to me that denying, ignoring, or discrediting unfavorable news is an initial political tactic that both sides use now and then. Perhaps hoping attention and impact will soon fade in today’s fast-paced news cycle?
So interesting that President Biden’s 5th House Moon in Taurus references his children’s tangible self-expression (in Ashley’s diary and Hunter’s laptop) and the potential for an issue connected to it (with the Pluto square).
We here in the USA all knew JB was not the nicest man when he helped bully Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas Supreme Court hearings. Plus, during the last campaign, the woman spoke out about him sexually assaulting her. That story got squashed. Biden in private seems like a very mean man – and I am a Democrat. Imo, he is the other side of the coin to Trump. All of them attend functions with each other and socialize in the same lofty circles, etc. Ivanka’s bff is Chelsea Clinton and their parents each attended their respective weddings.
Hi Marjorie,
President Joe Biden is currently hosting Kenya’s President William Ruto here in the U.S. The visit is making big news because President Biden has just designated Kenya as a close non-NATO ally to the U.S.
Personally, I think Biden has been wonderful on foreign policy and international relations – he’s doing something our past Presidents should’ve done long ago – he’s pushing for closer ties with Sub-Saharan Africa, India, and other nations in the Global South.
Astrologically, how do relations look between Kenya and the U.S. in the near future? Do the stars indicate a good partnership between the two nations or will China’s influence in Africa act as roadblock?
I’m really curious to know what the astrology suggests for all of this. Any thoughts or insights you could share would be greatly appreciated.
from new york post:RE Trump campaign rally in NYC
“He represents us, the blacks in this city and in the world. He’s a real Nelson Mandela,” Paget Jones, 45, of Harlem, told The Post outside the Crotona Park event.
we shall overcome :2024!
The real “Nelson Mandela?” I take it that that Paget Jones person either has an IQ well below average intelligence or is just willfully ignorant if they have the audacity to compare an idiot and a racist like Donald Trump to a great activist like Nelson Mandela.
May 7th marked 200 years of the first performance of Beethoven’s 9th symphony in 1824. It’s also known as the Ode of Joy, as the poem that the choir sings in the 4th movement is by Friedrich Schiller, which calls upon the brotherhood of men – sounds like Uranus. Can you see any astrological relevance linked to this celebration?
Think The EU use jt as their anthem. Though I could be mistaken.
The Council of Europe use it as the European Anthem.
All members of the EU (and other countries like Russia, Turkey and the UK) are members of the Council of Europe and play it as the European Anthem. Likewise other non-EU European organisations, such as UEFA, also use that anthem to represent Europe as a whole.
@Sheila to me, it sounds more Aquarius specific than Uranus specific. Worth checking which planets were in Aquarius in the 1820s-1850 (1848 was the year of revolutions across Europe).
Sorry, meant to link to the Wiki page on the European Anthem.
I almost forgot about what’s happening in New Caledonia. It appears the Indigenous Kanak People desperately want independence.
Yesterday I saw there was an article in The New York Times about the new biography of Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy. I searched to see if you maybe wrote about her and John, but it seems you haven’t. So I was wondering if perhaps you could tell us something about the astrology.
Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy:
7 January 1966 at 08:45 (= 08:45 AM )
White Plains, New York, 41n02, 73w46
Astrodatabank Rodden Rating: A
John F. Kennedy Jr.
25 November 1960 at 00:22 (= 12:22 AM )
Washington, District of Columbia, 38n54, 77w02
Astrodatabank Rodden Rating: A
El: Must have been a typo. Carolyn was born November 27, 1957. JFK was killed in November 1963. Scorpio, Scorpio, Scorpio……
Apologies: You were posting about jr.’s wife.
Yeah, these two were one of those mesmerizing couples, and then they were gone… In such a shocking way.
Now there is a new book, Once Upon A Time: The Captivating Life of Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy, in which we find Carolyn was “irked” John never introduced her to Jackie, among other things.
The book was written by Elizabeth Beller. It would be interesting to see what the astrology says.
Yes because he told the King first. He changed the order of how things are usually done in order to prevent a challenge to his leadership.
Marjorie,
Also, Nikki Haley publicly endorsed Donald Trump today saying she will be voting for him this November. She’s asking her voters to rally behind him too.
Granted, none of this comes as a surprise to me; Republican politicians usually fall in line in the end.
However, there is now speculation that Trump is considering picking Nikki Haley as his VP – in an effort to sway White suburbanite women voters (a pivotal swing demographic in the battleground states that could tip the Electoral College in either Biden or Trump’s direction).
I know your comments and requests sections have been inundated with questions about Donald Trump, Joe Biden, and the Presidential election for months now and I remember you mentioning how redundant these requests were becoming and that you would like to focus on other topics.
I’m also getting tired of hearing and reading about Trump (which is why I haven’t been following his court cases, polls, or his outrageous antics these past few months). However, the Nikki Haley announcement did make me wonder: what does the astrology suggest?
Astrologically, are there any signs that Trump will pick Haley or that she will have influence in his mess of a campaign over the next few months?
Marjorie,
anything astrologically significant happening with Syria? Reuters and and Al-Monitor recently reported that Bashar al-Assad’s wife has just been diagnosed with leukemia.
How does Trump’s chart look for a verdict in the NY case next week? Court reconvenes Tuesday for closing arguments, jury instructions and then deliberation.
Hi Marjorie how does 4.7.24 close of poll at 10:00pm Westminster look, for Gen Election? Any insights most welcome and thanks….
Paula Vennells.
jail for 40 years, defrocking, would be minimum justice.
I was just wondering why the Civil Service, English Parliament and Westminster Charts all start an 12.00 PM. Yet the U.K. 12.00 AM?
Although Rishi Sunak was born in Great Britain, could you compare an Indian Astrology Chart with his Western Astrology chart please?
Marjorie’s chart for Rishi Sunak has it set to 2:40PM on the date of his birth. The chart above only states a generic 12 o’clock (I presume 12PM, but it is unclear).
And time of birth is very important in Indian astrology. Because that is what determines the Ascendant, which is very important in Indian astrology.
You can do it yourself in AstroDienst/Astro.com.
Click through to Extended Chart Selection. Expand “Zodiac and Houses” and make the following changes.
House system – “whole signs”
Zodiac – “Sidereal”
Ayanamsha – “Hindu/Lahiri”
Although the format that it will show you is the western circular format, the signs and houses will reflect the Indian vedic/jyotisha signs and houses.
The key difference between the western and Indian jyotisha charts is not so much the charts itself. The angles between the planets, for instance, will remain the same.
However, it is the approach to interpretation, which does not look at the angles between the planets, but the lordship of the various signs and how they interact with the location of the planets.
are they getting ready to dump rishi because he was about to announce an election imminently!!? what say the stars…all v fast moving.
Papers stating he will announce it tonight. Perhaps Marjorie could give us some Astro charts for escape holiday islands as well?
hahahaha!!!bet the tories win too proving you can fool all the people all the time….
Who would want to be Tory leader right now when they are on way to lose GE?
I guess this is more to do with rate of inflation falling further and Bank of England to announce rate cuts in June. Plus energy companies to announce 7% price fall in summer.
Tories want to leave on a high note. They want to minimise their loses and make a case for a comeback after 5 years if Starmer messes up.
So far Marjorie’s predictions back starmer messing up.
Donald Trump was just found guilty on 34 felony charges. Whether he goes to prison or not remains to be seen. However, this will likely hurt him among many undecided voters.
The timing for all of this is interesting. One Vedic astrologer I’ve been following for many years predicted Trump would be convicted by the end of May (and this prediction was made back in mid-2023). They also predicted Joe Biden’s fortunes would change for the better after June 1.
Amazing, thank you
Trump found guilty on all counts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On the BBC feed, he looks like he is going to cry.
Such unexpected emotion on that visage!
Did his make up run?
What a historic day and he still comes out stating ” the case was rigged and the real outcome will be on the 5 November”. Does he have no shame.
Unfortunately, he can still stand for President from inside prison. If he goes to prison at all. Hard to know what can prevent him from running? Interesting how this verdict might confirm his natal chart – tr Uranus in money-minded Taurus is conjunct his MC right now. Also, tr Mars and Chiron in the potentially ‘legal’ 9th house are square natal Saturn in Cancer (plus Venus)in the 11th house of groups. Probably comes as a shock to him, by the looks of it.
Trump finally won a popular vote!
Really looking forward to what I hope Marjorie is going to write on tomorrow.
Sentencing is on July 11th…. the Republican Convention is on July 15th! Will he be doing his keynote speach from prison?
Wall Street Journal is writing: Mexico Is About to Elect Its First Female President. Her Job: Save the Nation.
What are Claudia Sheinbaum’s and Mexico’s fortunes?
Also the chances of her rival Xochitl Galvez.
Marjorie, I would like to request a post from you covering the topic of how/whether astrology can help people to embody their ‘true selves,’ if possible.
I’m still struck by your post covering Kristi Noem’s chart (9th May 2024). I noticed it because her chart is very similar indeed to mine, but what I keep thinking about is how little she seems to be embodying or living out that strongly positioned Jupiter in Sagittarius.
It got me thinking: does a natal chart reveal ‘who someone is,’ or would it be more accurate to say it reveals who they/we could be – IF they/we really listened within and were determined to follow their own true path?
Or, do you think it is the case that someone like Kristi Noem is just very closed off from the voice of her true self (as is true for so many people)? Has she simply become brainwashed by her environment (or early childhood conditioning), thus making her effectively deaf to the whispers from her soul…?
Having watched the excellent new drama ‘A Small Light’ I would like to know more about Miep Gies. She helped hide the Frank family plus another family and her dentist during the second world war. It was a full time job finding food for everyone. She was very brave, ditto her husband and her colleagues.
Thank you Marjorie.
Science is still only a candle glimmering in a great pitch-dark cavern.” Mario Vargas Llosa
“No part of the aim of normal science is to call forth new sorts of phenomena; indeed those that will not fit the box are often not seen at all.” Dean Radin.
Kohler: Each science has a sort of attic into which things are almost automatically pushed that cannot be used at the moment, that do not quite fit …We are constantly putting aside, unused, a wealth of valuable material [which leads to] blocking of scientific progress.
“The rise of modern science has brought with it increasing acceptance among intellectual elites of a picture of reality that conflicts sharply both with everyday human experience and with beliefs widely shared among the world’s great cultures.” Edward F Kelly: Beyond Physicalism.
“Theory is all very well, but it doesn’t prevent things from existing.” Freud
Physicist Nils Bohr “defining an event requires two entirely opposing and contradictory views of it, both of which are true”.
It could all be true, but would you fly on a plane whose foundational principles are not scientific or let someone who is not a qualified medical doctor perform a complicated procedure to save a life? Yes, there probably were shamans who saved a whole lot of people, but that doesn’t detract from power of science and many benefits it brought into our daily well-being. It is all a slippery slope, picthing science against more metaphysical fair.
I am also reminded of the so-called black box problem with today’s neural networks – we have no idea fully how they make decisions, and that is why no one will give them the power, for now, to decide on their own in important matters.
Same can be said of astrology – no one will give it that power, because we are so far from how this works and how it doesn’t.
To quote the meaning of the High Priestess card in the tarot once again: this is all still the future as yet unrevealed. Some things remain out of our reach, and might stay that way forever.
Go read – Beyond Physicalism: Toward Reconciliation of Science and Spirituality Hardcover 2015 by Edward F. Kelly (Editor), Adam Crabtree (Editor), Paul Marshall (Editor)
‘Most contemporary scientists and philosophers believe that reality is at bottom purely physical, and that human beings are nothing more than extremely complicated biological machines. On such views our everyday experiences of conscious decision-making, free will, and the self are illusory by-products of the grinding of our neural machinery. It follows that mind and personality are necessarily extinguished at death, and that there exists no deeper transpersonal or spiritual reality of any sort. Beyond Physicalism is the product of an unusual fellowship of scientists and humanities scholars who dispute these views. In their previous publication, Irreducible Mind, they argued that physicalism cannot accommodate various well-evidenced empirical phenomena including paranormal or psi phenomena, postmortem survival, and mystical experiences. In this new theory-oriented companion volume they go further by attempting to understand how the world must be constituted in order that these “rogue” phenomena can occur. Drawing upon empirical science, metaphysical philosophy, and the mystical traditions, the authors work toward an improved “big picture” of the general character of reality, one which strongly overlaps territory traditionally occupied by the world’s institutional religions, and which attempts to reconcile science and spirituality by finding a middle path between the polarized fundamentalisms, religious and scientific, that have dominated recent public discourse.’
all in the Atharvaveda…1200 BCE
Thanks, Marjorie – A quote from Seth, channeled by Jane Roberts: “We are indeed dealing with two entirely different approaches to reality and to solving problems — methods we will here call the rational method and the magical one. The rational approach works quite well in certain situations, such as mass production of goods, or in certain kinds of scientific measurements — but all in all the rational method, as it is understood and used, does not work as an overall approach to life, or in the solving of problems that involve subjective rather than objective measurements or calculations. The magical approach has far greater weight, if you use it and allow yourselves to operate in that fashion, for it has the weight of your basic natural orientation.”
― Jane Roberts- Seth
I asked ChatGPT “What can you tell me about the problem of falsifiability and astrology?”
Here is what it said:
“Falsifiability is a key principle in the philosophy of science, introduced by philosopher Karl Popper. It asserts that for a theory to be considered scientific, it must be testable and capable of being proven false. In other words, there must be conceivable evidence or observations that could show the theory to be incorrect.
When it comes to astrology, the problem of falsifiability becomes quite pronounced. Astrology is the belief that the positions and movements of celestial bodies (such as stars and planets) can influence human behavior and events on Earth. Here are a few key points related to the problem of falsifiability and astrology:
1. **Lack of Clear Predictions**: Astrological predictions are often vague and general, making it difficult to test them in a rigorous, scientific manner. For example, a horoscope might say, “You will face challenges today,” which is a statement that could apply to almost anyone on any given day. Because the predictions are not specific, it is hard to determine whether they are truly accurate or simply broad enough to fit many situations.
2. **Post Hoc Rationalizations**: When astrological predictions appear to come true, adherents often cite this as evidence of astrology’s validity. However, these successful predictions are often the result of confirmation bias, where people remember the hits and forget the misses. Additionally, if a prediction does not come true, astrologers can often provide a rationalization or adjustment to the interpretation, which makes the theory unfalsifiable.
3. **Scientific Testing**: Various scientific studies have tested astrological predictions and found no statistically significant evidence to support them. For instance, double-blind tests where subjects are given astrological readings and then asked to match them to their own lives have shown that people are no better than chance at identifying their own horoscope.
4. **Astrology vs. Astronomy**: Unlike astrology, astronomy is a science that makes precise and falsifiable predictions. For example, astronomers can predict solar eclipses, planetary movements, and the behavior of celestial bodies with high accuracy. The success of these predictions is based on empirical data and rigorous testing, which contrasts sharply with the anecdotal and untestable nature of astrological claims.
5. **Theoretical Basis**: Astrology lacks a coherent theoretical framework that can be tested and potentially falsified. Scientific theories, such as the theory of gravity, provide specific mechanisms and predictions that can be scrutinized through experimentation and observation. Astrology, on the other hand, does not provide such mechanisms and often relies on mystical or supernatural explanations that fall outside the realm of scientific inquiry.
In summary, astrology faces significant challenges regarding falsifiability. Its predictions are often too vague to be tested.”
And yesterday we’ve had the last aspect of the Moon before it changed signs, and it was a square to Neptune.
A few days ago I wanted to buy an item and the saleswoman told me to come on Saturday. Yesterday I went during that aspect, and she was not there (Moon – woman square [negative emanation] gone – Neptune). She didn’t lie to me – I was just a little early probably.
So astrology can sometimes be too literal. And such instances pull you in the other direction, believing it works.
@El Aznar
In my view astronomy deals with the physical body of the stars therefore easier to measure, astrology deals with the more fluid life of soul so difficult to understand and pin down.
Do any Americans have any thoughts on daughter Ashley Biden – there is an alarming piece in the Daily Mail which can’t all be right wing smears.
I found the article from the Daily Mail you’re referring to. Yes, it is indeed a shocking (and very disturbing piece) and the photographs of Hunter Biden’s sexual escapades (which I hadn’t been exposed to until finding that article) only made it worse.
Granted, for what it’s worth, I noticed that Media Bias Factcheck gives Daily Mail a low credibility rating:
According to Media Bias Factcheck (regarding the Daily Mail) their findings:
Questionable Reasoning: Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy, Some Fake News, Numerous Failed Fact Checks
Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW
Country: United Kingdom
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Newspaper
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY
I know the Ashley Biden diary story has been covered by other sources – but mostly celebrity and pop culture magazines as well as far-right news outlets. None of the standard newspapers or news magazines appear to be covering this story. If they are, then they’re not making headlines at the moment.
I read that Snopes verified the contents of the Ashley Biden’s diary to be true. Plus, Ashley Biden verified the diary as being authentic herself. However, also according to Snopes and VerifyThis, Ashley Biden claimed the contents of her diary were manipulated, misinterpreted, and distorted.
Anyway, there hasn’t been enough information presented for me to formulate a judgement. I would be horrified if story turned out to be true in the way right-wing media has presented it. However, I suppose only Ashley Biden can herself can prove or disprove all of this. So far, she appears adamant that her writings were taken out of context.
Years ago the News of the World which was a scurrilous rag and not what you might think of as reliable was often the only paper with the guts to print sordid stories that often turned out to be only too accurate. No one else would touch them. Not because the info was wrong but they were scared of repercussions.
Very true Marjorie. It was The National Enquirer here that exposed that John Edwards fathered a child with his mistress while his wife was dying of cancer. He was running for Vice President.
You can read the whole Ashley Biden diary online:
https://archive.org/details/ashley-biden-diary/mode/1up
Pertinent page highlighted in yellow:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDc4dQ6XEAQHFhZ.jpg:large
Personally, I don’t see any manipulation or distortion.
@Maggie, you need to look at her writings in the context of her being in rehab at the time, overcoming a drug addiction, which seems a predisposition in her family. Memories can be distorted in that context, especially if extracts are selectively edited.
I remember my ramblings into a tape recorder (remember those?) after leaving therapy sessions in my 30s, full of all sorts of wild charges against my sister and parents. Those impressions changed and mellowed over time, as I realized they (mostly) were doing the best they could under the circumstances with the character traits they brought to the relationship.
Marjorie, I’d be interested in your astrological take on the vulnerability and unflattering exposure that Ashley Biden and Hunter Biden pose for President Biden. Both children are making news related to court proceedings; the case involving Ashley’s somewhat provocative diary and Hunter’s trial for gun charges.
A reflection of transiting Pluto squaring the president’s 5th House Moon?
American political activist here — I think that people — myself included — write things in journals that are the product of mental meanderings and fraught emotions, especially when we’re going through tough times. I know I’ve written things in my journal that I ‘d be horrified to see the light of day because I can’t vouch for their actual truth. And I know that my stepson wrote things about his father that are patiently untrue — like charges of murder — just to make himself feel better.
Ashley was in drug treatment at the time she wrote her journal. Was what she wrote true or was it the result of her troubled mind at the time? I have no way of knowing. Only Ashley does. Growing up in an intense political environment is tough on kids and the trauma of that constant scrutiny can affect a kid’s perception. I’d let Ashley speak for herself.
I think the fact that these revelations came through the viile, always-distorting Project Veritas and the Daily Mail and that Ashley herself says they were misrepresented makes it less likely that they’ll gain traction politically. Also, the right-wingers discredit themselves by focusing constantly on the Biden family’s alleged misdeeds while totally ignoring Trump’s well-documented crimes and public statements about his sex life, including his publicly admitted lusting after daughter Ivanka.
There’s just no moral equivalency here, despite Republicans’ efforts to make up allegations against Biden.
With known Russian, Chinese and Iranian interference in Western elections and anticipated typical dirty tricks augmented by deep fakes and AI, I truly fear for the survival of Western and especially American democracy. I’m dreading the run-up to November.
@ Nicole Sours Larson,
I agree with everything you said. We live in era where exposure to disinformation is now the new normal, where journalism has become much too editorialized and sensationalized, and where social media can shape or influence public opinion in a matter of minutes.
It’s almost impossible to read anything without feeling the need to fact-check given the atmosphere of conclusion and uncertainty these days.
Regarding Ashley Biden’s diary, I decided to reserve judgement since the information presented is limited and anecdotal.
You are absolutely right; only Ashley Biden herself can confirm or debunk the meaning of her writings.
I will say this: I’ve known people who are survivors of sexual abuse and it’s definitely the kind of trauma that stays with an individual throughout their life.
Ashley Biden, so far, has defended her father and has repeatedly stated that the contents of her dairy that were exposed to the world to see where taken out of context.
Also, she appears to have a good relationship with her father (which I would think would think would be nonexistent if her father had sexually abused her). So, I really don’t know what to think about all of this.
I just think it would be unfair to the Biden Family (especially to Ashley Biden herself) to assume we know what happened to her or to condemn Joe Biden without any empirical evidence whatsoever.
My advice is to never write your thoughts down in a diary or a journal unless you are comfortab le with your family finding it when cleaning out your home once you have passed
Hmm. Granted that no one this side of an asylum wants Trump elected, it bothers me that stories about the Biden family are instantly written off as smears. As far as I gather it the Ashley diary was initially classified as a ‘fake story’ until she verified its existence in a letter to the judge trying those who published it. Ditto the Hunter Biden horror stories.
Biden has a 5th house Moon being squared this year by tr Pluto square – children to a degree are his Achilles Heel.
Good point, Marjorie. Seems to me that denying, ignoring, or discrediting unfavorable news is an initial political tactic that both sides use now and then. Perhaps hoping attention and impact will soon fade in today’s fast-paced news cycle?
So interesting that President Biden’s 5th House Moon in Taurus references his children’s tangible self-expression (in Ashley’s diary and Hunter’s laptop) and the potential for an issue connected to it (with the Pluto square).
We here in the USA all knew JB was not the nicest man when he helped bully Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas Supreme Court hearings. Plus, during the last campaign, the woman spoke out about him sexually assaulting her. That story got squashed. Biden in private seems like a very mean man – and I am a Democrat. Imo, he is the other side of the coin to Trump. All of them attend functions with each other and socialize in the same lofty circles, etc. Ivanka’s bff is Chelsea Clinton and their parents each attended their respective weddings.
Hi Marjorie,
President Joe Biden is currently hosting Kenya’s President William Ruto here in the U.S. The visit is making big news because President Biden has just designated Kenya as a close non-NATO ally to the U.S.
Personally, I think Biden has been wonderful on foreign policy and international relations – he’s doing something our past Presidents should’ve done long ago – he’s pushing for closer ties with Sub-Saharan Africa, India, and other nations in the Global South.
Astrologically, how do relations look between Kenya and the U.S. in the near future? Do the stars indicate a good partnership between the two nations or will China’s influence in Africa act as roadblock?
I’m really curious to know what the astrology suggests for all of this. Any thoughts or insights you could share would be greatly appreciated.
from new york post:RE Trump campaign rally in NYC
“He represents us, the blacks in this city and in the world. He’s a real Nelson Mandela,” Paget Jones, 45, of Harlem, told The Post outside the Crotona Park event.
we shall overcome :2024!
The real “Nelson Mandela?” I take it that that Paget Jones person either has an IQ well below average intelligence or is just willfully ignorant if they have the audacity to compare an idiot and a racist like Donald Trump to a great activist like Nelson Mandela.
May 7th marked 200 years of the first performance of Beethoven’s 9th symphony in 1824. It’s also known as the Ode of Joy, as the poem that the choir sings in the 4th movement is by Friedrich Schiller, which calls upon the brotherhood of men – sounds like Uranus. Can you see any astrological relevance linked to this celebration?
Think The EU use jt as their anthem. Though I could be mistaken.
The Council of Europe use it as the European Anthem.
All members of the EU (and other countries like Russia, Turkey and the UK) are members of the Council of Europe and play it as the European Anthem. Likewise other non-EU European organisations, such as UEFA, also use that anthem to represent Europe as a whole.
@Sheila to me, it sounds more Aquarius specific than Uranus specific. Worth checking which planets were in Aquarius in the 1820s-1850 (1848 was the year of revolutions across Europe).
Sorry, meant to link to the Wiki page on the European Anthem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthem_of_Europe
Hello Marjorie,
Can you look at New Caledonia?
I almost forgot about what’s happening in New Caledonia. It appears the Indigenous Kanak People desperately want independence.
Yesterday I saw there was an article in The New York Times about the new biography of Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy. I searched to see if you maybe wrote about her and John, but it seems you haven’t. So I was wondering if perhaps you could tell us something about the astrology.
Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy:
7 January 1966 at 08:45 (= 08:45 AM )
White Plains, New York, 41n02, 73w46
Astrodatabank Rodden Rating: A
John F. Kennedy Jr.
25 November 1960 at 00:22 (= 12:22 AM )
Washington, District of Columbia, 38n54, 77w02
Astrodatabank Rodden Rating: A
El: Must have been a typo. Carolyn was born November 27, 1957. JFK was killed in November 1963. Scorpio, Scorpio, Scorpio……
Apologies: You were posting about jr.’s wife.
Yeah, these two were one of those mesmerizing couples, and then they were gone… In such a shocking way.
Now there is a new book, Once Upon A Time: The Captivating Life of Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy, in which we find Carolyn was “irked” John never introduced her to Jackie, among other things.
The book was written by Elizabeth Beller. It would be interesting to see what the astrology says.
Yes because he told the King first. He changed the order of how things are usually done in order to prevent a challenge to his leadership.
Marjorie,
Also, Nikki Haley publicly endorsed Donald Trump today saying she will be voting for him this November. She’s asking her voters to rally behind him too.
Granted, none of this comes as a surprise to me; Republican politicians usually fall in line in the end.
However, there is now speculation that Trump is considering picking Nikki Haley as his VP – in an effort to sway White suburbanite women voters (a pivotal swing demographic in the battleground states that could tip the Electoral College in either Biden or Trump’s direction).
I know your comments and requests sections have been inundated with questions about Donald Trump, Joe Biden, and the Presidential election for months now and I remember you mentioning how redundant these requests were becoming and that you would like to focus on other topics.
I’m also getting tired of hearing and reading about Trump (which is why I haven’t been following his court cases, polls, or his outrageous antics these past few months). However, the Nikki Haley announcement did make me wonder: what does the astrology suggest?
Astrologically, are there any signs that Trump will pick Haley or that she will have influence in his mess of a campaign over the next few months?
Marjorie,
anything astrologically significant happening with Syria? Reuters and and Al-Monitor recently reported that Bashar al-Assad’s wife has just been diagnosed with leukemia.
How does Trump’s chart look for a verdict in the NY case next week? Court reconvenes Tuesday for closing arguments, jury instructions and then deliberation.
Hi Marjorie how does 4.7.24 close of poll at 10:00pm Westminster look, for Gen Election? Any insights most welcome and thanks….
Paula Vennells.
jail for 40 years, defrocking, would be minimum justice.
I was just wondering why the Civil Service, English Parliament and Westminster Charts all start an 12.00 PM. Yet the U.K. 12.00 AM?
Although Rishi Sunak was born in Great Britain, could you compare an Indian Astrology Chart with his Western Astrology chart please?
rishi vedic https://celebrity.astrosage.com/rishi-sunak-birth-chart.asp
This chart is inaccurate/wrong.
Marjorie’s chart for Rishi Sunak has it set to 2:40PM on the date of his birth. The chart above only states a generic 12 o’clock (I presume 12PM, but it is unclear).
And time of birth is very important in Indian astrology. Because that is what determines the Ascendant, which is very important in Indian astrology.
You can do it yourself in AstroDienst/Astro.com.
Click through to Extended Chart Selection. Expand “Zodiac and Houses” and make the following changes.
House system – “whole signs”
Zodiac – “Sidereal”
Ayanamsha – “Hindu/Lahiri”
Although the format that it will show you is the western circular format, the signs and houses will reflect the Indian vedic/jyotisha signs and houses.
The key difference between the western and Indian jyotisha charts is not so much the charts itself. The angles between the planets, for instance, will remain the same.
However, it is the approach to interpretation, which does not look at the angles between the planets, but the lordship of the various signs and how they interact with the location of the planets.
are they getting ready to dump rishi because he was about to announce an election imminently!!? what say the stars…all v fast moving.
Papers stating he will announce it tonight. Perhaps Marjorie could give us some Astro charts for escape holiday islands as well?
hahahaha!!!bet the tories win too proving you can fool all the people all the time….
Who would want to be Tory leader right now when they are on way to lose GE?
I guess this is more to do with rate of inflation falling further and Bank of England to announce rate cuts in June. Plus energy companies to announce 7% price fall in summer.
Tories want to leave on a high note. They want to minimise their loses and make a case for a comeback after 5 years if Starmer messes up.
So far Marjorie’s predictions back starmer messing up.