Pluto, Neptune, Uranus – change comes at a price

  Outer planet changeovers are not for the faint hearted. Alongside positive advances there is inevitably a showcasing of the worst side of the planet involved. As if the scales have to be balanced  – no good without the bad, no joy without sorrow, no peace without war.

 This is a rehash of previous posts.

  In the year or two before a Pluto transition into a new sign and several after, there has always been a ferment of unrest often armed conflict.

Pluto in Aquarius: The American Revolutionary War began in 1775 when Pluto was at 26 degrees Capricorn and ran on till 1783 with Pluto at 9 degrees Aquarius, during which years the French and Spanish joined in on the side of the US colonies against Great Britain. GB was also at war with the Dutch and fighting with Spain over Gibraltar.

 Around that time In 1774, the Ottoman Empire was defeated by Catherine the Great, making Crimea independent, which was then incorporated into the Russian Empire in 1783.

  To balance the scales James Watt invented the steam engine which was fundamental to the Industrial Revolution which followed.

  And not just Pluto’s entry into Aquarius. More often than not when Pluto ventures into a different sign, every fifteen to twenty years, the changeover has been marked by the start of violent clashes lasting several years. Pluto into Taurus in 1853, Crimean War. Pluto into Cancer in 1914, World War One. Pluto into Leo in 1938, Spanish Civil War and WW11 approaches. Pluto into Virgo in 1956 Russia invades Hungary. Pluto into Libra in 1982, UK versus Argentina over the Falklands. Pluto into Capricorn in 2008, Russia invades Georgia.

  Neptune moving into Aries as it does in 2025 has a track record from the previous time in the 19th Century for humanitarian advances. It produced the Geneva Convention, the Red Cross, the Salvation Army, the Bahai faith, and the emancipation of the serfs in Russia. It also oversaw the US Civil War in 1861 with the abolition of slavery at its heart.

 On the downside in 1914 Neptune was in late Cancer preparing to move into into Leo for World War 1. In 1929 it moved into Virgo for the end of the Roaring Twenties and the start of the Great Depression. In 1942/42 Neptune into Libra during World War 11 was when the Holocaust and gas chambers got under way. In 1957 into Scorpio when H2N2 flu killed 1 million globally. In 1984 into Capricorn when the Ethiopian famine killed 1 million, triggering BandAid/Bob Geldof and a global charitable effort. In 1998 into Aquarius for the Kosovo War start, and the 2nd Congo War which killed 5.4 million, the bloodiest conflict since WW11. The Good Friday Agreement brought peace to Northern Ireland. In 2011 into Pisces for the Arab Spring, Bin Laden killed, Kim Jong Il dies.

  Uranus moving into Gemini in 2025 for seven years has an equally mixed (good and bad) track record of outcomes to the other outer planets. It coincided with the American Civil War during the 1860s; the American Revolution in 1775/76; and in 1942/43 came on the back of the Pearl Harbour attack which precipitated USA entry into World War 11.   

   Revolutions are a key outcome of the Uranian push for freedom at all costs. The 1968 Uranus into Libra brought the start of the Irish Troubles and the Stonewall riots for gay rights. The Eastern European uprisings of 1989 when the Berlin Wall was collapsed with Uranus just into Capricorn. That year apartheid in South Africa started to be dismantled.  The Arab Spring coincided with Uranus moving into Aries in 2011.  The destructive side of Uranus comes out with brutal suppressions as in Tiananmen Square in 1989 (in Capricorn); the Holocaust in 1942/43 (in Gemini); Nazism on the rise and the Night of the Long Knives purge in Germany in 1934 with Uranus moving into Taurus. And the Titanic sank as Uranus moved into Aquarius in 1912.

  But it also brought technical and scientific advances which altered the face of global culture – television, airplane development and space travel.  The internet moved from early computing in the 1955/6 Uranus into Leo, further advances in 1962, Microsoft being founded in 1974 with Uranus just into Scorpio, first computer virus on the next in 1981 when moving into Sagittarius, then 1989 into Capricorn the first commercial internet providers and the WWW.

 To be remembered – no planet works its magic or mischief in isolation from other planets.  In 1942 for example Uranus moved into Gemini, Neptune into Libra and Pluto was in early Leo. Each will have thrown its contribution into the cauldron to produce a blended effect.    What is marginally reassuring is there is not a Saturn Pluto hard aspect until 2028 or a tumultuous Uranus Pluto until the late 2040s which often cause the most havoc.

28 thoughts on “Pluto, Neptune, Uranus – change comes at a price

  1. All the signs have shades of light and dark, but on a slightly more optimistic note the American Constitution was written when Pluto was last in Aquarius. ‘We the People’, the first three words of the Constitution are important here because this is possibly the first instance in Western history of Aquarian ‘rule by the people.’

    March 1786 saw a Saturn/Pluto conjunction in Aquarius and in the USA post-war economic recession, foreclosure, rising debt and the Shay’s Rebellion as a result, eventually leading to the Philadelphia Convention and the release of debtors from imprisonment. People power.

    I wonder what form this People Power will take in our current era. Here’s hoping.

  2. Hello.

    There’s a typo — they happen to all of us — in the last sentence of the 8th paragraph that I wish to bring to your attention concerning the year given for the American Civil War. The paragraph in question reads as follows:

    “Neptune moving into Aries as it does in 2025 has a track record from the previous time in the 19th Century for humanitarian advances. It produced the Geneva Convention, the Red Cross, the Salvation Army, the Bahai faith, and the emancipation of the serfs in Russia. It also oversaw the US Civil War in 1781 [sic] with the abolition of slavery at its heart.”

    I believe that you meant 1861 instead of 1781 because it would be a logical fallacy to suggest that there was a civil war brewing in the United States just two years before the formal, de jure conclusion of the Revolutionary War recognized by the Treaty of Paris of 1783 that affirmed the United Kingdom’s recognition of American independence.

  3. Marjorie’s analysis is consistently thoughtful and thought provoking. …no good without the bad… It makes me think of ..Charles Dickens, “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair”

    Thank you so much for all you write!

  4. Hmm, I look ahead with trepidation too. Not just at the world, but of course personally. Pluto from the 4th will square my Mars, then Venus/Uranus then the AC. I want to look more into Chiron too with its move into Taurus in 2026. It seems to have been in Aries a long time. It has had a massive personal impact on me in hard aspect so I am wary of it despite it not being one of the big three. I have this horrible feeling it will be opposing some of my Scorpio party at the same time as Pluto squares them. Ugh.

  5. Fantastic insights as always Marjorie, but what indications on the futures of the World Economic Forum and also the World Health Organisation? Will they succeed in their push for a global New World Order?

  6. Brilliant post, Marjorie!

    Digesting each and every item of note as I read the post…
    and then burst out in an expected chuckle with your last sentence intro…

    “what is marginally reassuring…”. 🙂

    I do love your way with words and your clarity…. and dry humour.
    We are all on one heck of a ride these next years.

    Previous Pluto transits were over my MC and then my AC.
    Pluto at 28/29 Cap has been square my Moon in Aries and S. Node.
    Now at 0 Aqu it is squaring my MC/IC.
    Solar Arc Pluto has just moved over my MC
    Natal Pluto in my 8th and it seems to be THE planet of my journey.

    I’ve had enough Pluto transits in the past to think –
    … “SERIOUSLY???…. MORE of this?…now?.. at 65?”
    All I want to do is hide in my small and cosy home, and yet…. we’ll see, I guess.

    And Andre…. your last 2 sentences of your post below…. very well said!!

    even so….
    thanks Marjorie… and to those who comment.
    It does help, doesn’t it?

  7. On a personal note, I am looking forward to changeover. I realised yesterday that my deeper interest in astrology began in 2008 when Pluto entered Capricorn and my 9th house. I’d been interested enough to take a course and read books in the 90s but when I think of the questions/knowledge I had in 2008 on the astrology website I frequented, it’s nothing compared to today. Pluto in 9th is meant to be one of its easier transits but I have had a constant sense of ennui throughout these years. Before I was ticking experiences off my lifelong bucket list, but now I always find myself lacking the motivation to do stuff unless it fits purposefully into my life. I can already feel 10th house energy building – first time in my life I’m feeling ambitious, wanting money and prestige. Hopefully I’ve learnt enough to be able to handle that energy in a good way. Interesting that when Uranus/Neptune went through I was still interested in the greater good.

    • Wow, Gnarly, “wanting money and prestige”… 😀 Good for you! May it happen for your benefit and for the benefit of all. To no one’s harm.

      Funny that you should verbalize in writing what I have been feeling: I often see something I might purse, but then stop and think But do I need this? What would I get from it? Does it make sense for me to go for this? The problems is that I end up not doing it, but not fully without some bits of regret that I might have had a chance and I might not have used it. Who knows if another will pop up.

  8. Does anyone have the habit of checking the Astro-Weather? Take a look at the outers at the moment:

    “Uranus void in Taurus
    Actions are unconventional, radical, or surprising. Not everyone agrees on how things should go, therefore there is discord within groups. Others, who have a specific agenda, persevere to make their point despite fierce opposition. Social conditions are volatile now. The bottom could fall out. It’s a time for experimentation and deviant behaviors. Sudden, unusual, and disruptive conditions occur now that reveal deep inequalities in society and culture.

    Neptune void in Pisces
    Trends are unclear. Not everything is known, there is much to suspect. The fabric of reality seems to be ripped asunder. Faith in leadership is low. Social and economic conditions are unstable and subject to devaluations. The future looks uncertain and no one is taking any chances. Beliefs about reality are challenged. Some feel overwhelmed, even flooded, literally and figuratively.

    Pluto void in Capricorn
    There is movement toward displaying outright power. Tolerance and patience are pushed aside in favor of drastic actions. Old wounds are reopened and confrontations forced. Power plays occur. Secret forces make their presence known. Some seek to act on their urges, others attempt to stop them. Deep secrets are revealed. A collective cleansing is in order.”

    • Thanks so much for sharing this! I do use Astro labe all the time but I didn’t know about this. I really appreciate Marjorie’s posts but sometimes they seem kind of depressing and down, but we’re all in this together! Keep calm and carry on is what my dear old mum would always say!

    • I don’t understand what is detailed for the three outers being void at the moment.

      With Pluto being late Capricorn, it is void but surely Neptune and Uranus are making a sextile and trine respectively to Pluto and therefore aren’t void?

      • They are good because they are not applying to another planet, but some other planet might be applying to them, which is valid for that planet, but not for the outer. Read the descriptions and say they are not true. I kind of am not a fan of people diminishing something for no good reason.

        • I wasn’t diminishing them. Rereading my comment, I can see my opening line didn’t convey what I was trying to ask.

          I was asking to clarify the technicality of why Uranus and Neptune are considered void when they still have aspects to make before leaving the sign? That’s my understanding of when the moon is VOC.

          • It’s easy to get your head around VOC Moons because they move so fast and always direct, so always the applying planet. In this instance, it is correct that applying sextile from Uranus to Neptune will not perfect until they both leave the signs, so technically VOC. But purists will be against using traditional techniques on the outer planets and it’s not a common practice as far as I’ve seen. However, there are no laws in astrology, it isn’t physics.

  9. Thank you for this Marjorie. I’ll admit I was jolted when recent reports were unveiled of Putin planning an assault to provoke NATO in 2025 and Sweden’s defence minister telling the country to be prepared for the prospect of war, which would really put Europe and the USA (itself going through political crisis) in the heat of war. I do believe Russia will see an impact with these outer planets shifting either with provoking a wider scale war or Putin dying/seeing a drastic change of leader somehow. On the technology side, also believe virtual reality, augmented reality and the internet will change drastically at the result of these transits – it will offer a ‘retreat’ for people as well as advancing many fields such as health and education. I imagine there will also be a wider acceptance of assisted dying.

    I have an Aquarius Moon in the 3rd house, which will be joined by Pluto (natally in my 12th house) soon enough – I am now shifting my career to learn about virtual and augmented reality applications and expect my career to take a more serious turn.

    • Likewise. I must admit my heart sank and I thought maybe they were exaggerating – but al of the Baltic States, Sweden, Finland etc have planets in early to mid Mutable which will be triggered by tr Uranus in Gemini.

  10. What is striking this time is that all three outer planets will change signs simultanously, which makes the mid-2020s a highly unstable period. However, the fact they are all in sextiles or a trine highly should be highly beneficial for humanity. The last time that happpened was at the end of WWII, which brought the atom bomb, revelations about the Holocaust and the ruin of Europe, but inaugurated a new hopeful era for the world after the fall of Germany and Japan. The problem is that outer planets don’t care about individual suffering, only the overall fate of humanity. They do allow individuals with a heavy imprint of outer planets in their charts to do remarkable deeds, good or bad, that would be impossible in ordinary times.

    • Saturn dips into Aries in summer 2025 as well. Doesn’t quite reach a conjunction with Neptune – that happens in 2026.

      I’d like to think it’s going to be ‘positive’ as they are moving into fire/air signs. The late 90s weren’t too bad when Pluto moved into Sag (1995/96) followed by Uranus into Aqua (1995-96) and then Neptune into Aqua (Jan 1998). Of course, with hindsight, that period doesn’t look so great now for what it set up but at least the general mood was much more live and let live.

        • It’s hard to imagine there will ever be a time when any one looks back on the Pluto in Capricorn era and refers to it as “the good ole times”. Maybe for the elites, but not the average person in the street.

          • I was actually replying to your comment that the nineties you mention were good times – for many places on Earth they were terrible. Same as what you say about Pluto in Capricorn: it might look horrible to you now, but there was good in there too. As Marjorie’s write-up says, everything is always a mixture of good and bad.

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