Neptune into Aries – Fire softened by Water ++

Neptune, planet of spirituality, illusion, delusion, deception, creativity and vision moves out of its own sign Pisces, where it has been since 2011, into Aries in 2025 staying till 2038. Looking back on historical events linked to its stay in upfront and pro-active Aries, not an easy combination, there are some constants but there will be additional cultural or psychological effects which the history books don’t describe. Aries Fire won’t always sit comfortably with Neptune’s Water. Though ‘Neptune in Aries may be about individuals submitting themselves to a bigger cause than themselves. It does seem to coincide, in the Western world at least with an increase in individual rights and was one of advancements for formally disenfranchised people.’

1861 – 1874: Most notably this covered the American Civil War, which arose after the abolition of slavery, which had been banned in Europe decades earlier.

  Abraham Lincoln was shot in the head (ruled by Aries) and died.

In Russia Alexander 11 signed the Emancipation Act liberating serfs in 1861.

The Bahai faith was founded as was the forerunner to the Salvation Army and the Geneva Convention established the Red Cross.

The first UK trade union was legalised in 1872 and in the U.S. the “Knights of Labor” was set up. The U.K. Education Act of 1870 brought in elementary schooling for all children and legislation on child labour. The USA gave voting rights to all ethnicities. The UK Married Women’s Property Act allowed married women to retain their earnings and inherit.

Italy was unified in 1860 and Canada came into being.

Prince Albert dies, Victoria’s consort and the ‘uncrowned king of GB.’

Famines in Finland, Sweden and India – of greater magnitude than usual.

1697 – 1710: The ill-fated Darien Scheme, which lost 20% of Scotland’s money, led to the Act of Union with England in 1707.

The Act of Settlement in 1701 establishing the succession to the English throne, put the childless protestant Queen Anne on the throne, leading on her death to the establishment of the Hanoverian Monarchy in 1714.

Peter 1 Great regenerated Russian society and started expansion westward.

Famines of greater magnitude than usual in Estonia, Sweden and Finland, the last wiping out almost a third of the population. Two million die of famine in India; 250,000 die in East Prussia and 600,000 in France.

1533 to 1547: Henry VIII is excommunicated by Pope Clement VII and the split from Rome establishes the Anglican Church.

Wales becomes part of the Kingdom of England.

Henry declares himself and his heirs as Kings of Ireland, replacing the Lordship of Ireland with the Kingdom of Ireland.

1370 to 1383: In England, the ‘Good Parliament’ attempted to highlight the corruption of the Royal court and to reform the government. John of Gaunt, the effective ruler, replaced it the next year with a ‘Bad Parliament’ which undid the advances.  

1206 to 1219: The English Barons force King John to sign the Magna Carta, in an attempt to curb the power of the monarch.

1042 to 1056: Westminster Abbey built, 1050. East-West schism in Catholic Church.

Edward the Confessor became King of England and restored the Saxon line after the Danes had conquered England under Cnut. As in 1533 England took a break from the European continent though it did not last long.

878 to 892: England has become unified for the first time under Alfred the Great a few years before (871).

551 to 564: ?

PS. Thanks to those who commented last time and added thoughts which I have incorporated.

Andre Barbault writes of the 2026 Saturn Neptune conjunction: “It is the most benefic configuration of the century and the interplanetary partnership will work for the best in a splendid relaunch of civilization. It contains a harmonious relationships between primordial polar opposites, the coming together of the external and internal, rational and spiritual, mind and soul …. human beings surpassing themselves while experiencing life on a higher level. “

  I hope he’s right – previous Neptune Saturn in Aries – 878 AD and 1381.

From Speedy:

551 – 564 This period came after the plague of Justinian (541-549) devastated the Mediterranean area and Western europe weakening the Roman Empire which became susceptible to invasions. The Abbey of Iona was founded in 563, an important focal point for the spread of Christian religion.

878-898 Alfred the Great was at his greatest during this period uniting an English force to beat off the Norse invaders. He also concluded a treaty in 878 which established spheres of influence and the Danelaw north of Watling Street.

1206- 1219 Apart from Magna Carta we had a child king on the throne (Henry III) whose advisers fought off a French invasion. Henry III’s reign was long and peppered with divers tumults and civil disturbances but the King was notable for enhancing Westminster Abbey.

1370- 1383 We have the aftermath of the Great Plague, a child king (Richard II) and a peasants’ revolt.

19 thoughts on “Neptune into Aries – Fire softened by Water ++

  1. Thanks Marjorie, some thoughts:
    551 – 564 This period came after the plague of Justinian (541-549) devastated the Mediterranean area and Western europe weakening the Roman Empire which became susceptible to invasions. The Abbey of Iona was founded in 563, an important focal point for the spread of Christian religion.
    878-898 Alfred the Great was at his greatest during this period uniting an English force to beat off the Norse invaders. He also concluded a treaty in 878 which established spheres of influence and the Danelaw north of Watling Street.
    1206- 1219 Apart from Magna Carta we had a child king on the throne (Henry III) whose advisers fought off a French invasion. Henry III’s reign was long and peppered with divers tumults and civil disturbances but the King was notable for enhancing Westminster Abbey.
    1370- 1383 We have the aftermath of the Great Plague, a child king (Richard II) and a peasants’ revolt.

    • The Black Death was a bubonic plague pandemic occurring in Afro-Eurasia from 1346 to 1353. It is the most fatal pandemic recorded in human history, causing the death of 75–200 million people in Eurasia and North Africa, peaking in Europe from 1347 to 1351. (Found the above on Wiki) The sign of Aquarius was occupied by Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and Neptune with Uranus and Pluto in the sign of Aries in 1345.
      It is said that up to 50% of the population died throughout these years

  2. If you would be very kind and check something for me. A Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) occurs 2038 in a vision that I recived. I am not an astrologer. I do enjoy Ms. Orr’s predictions. Thank you in advance, C

    • I hope he’s right but I doubt it. There has been never been a US Uranus return without major bloodshed. The deeper unpalatable truth is that warfare might be necessary to accelerate and intensify much needed social change, including environmental issues. Who says climate change will be managed peaceably?

  3. Marjorie,
    I note there is a Pisces Stellium in early March 2022
    (preceding the Jupiter/Neptune Conjunction on 12 April 2022)
    coupled with a Mars/Venus/Pluto Stellium in Capricorn.
    Was wondering has it much relevance?
    Thank you if you comment.

  4. Andre Barbault was overly optimistic if he is interpreted to mean that accelerated social change precludes warfare. The coming favorable aspects between outer planets are reminiscent of mid-WWII when the tide began to turn in favor of the Allies, once Saturn and Uranus had left Taurus where they supported Nazi aggression. Saturn joined Uranus in Gemini in 1942, when Montgomery won at El Alamein, the first American naval victories took place in the Pacific, the American landing in North Africa was launched, and the Germans attacked Stalingrad which turned out to be their greatest defeat. Pluto was entering Leo at the time while Neptune was entering Libra. The US was in the midst of its second Uranus return, which again brought major conflict after the Revolutionary and Civil Wars. As soon as the tide turned, Churchill and FDR began planning the foundation of the UN and the creation of a new and better world order which has served us rather well to this day. Similar changes seem to be coming this decade. Humanity will have another chance to step closer to its ideals (Pluto and Uranus in air signs) with another improved international system. But another US Uranus return closely following the Pluto return and the entry of Neptune in Aries are indications of major conflict for a higher cause. Progressed Mars retrograde in the US chart however implies the outcome will not be another Pax Americana, but that the US would do well to relinquish its leadership role to either a stronger international institution or alliance of like-minded countries.

    • I would have to say I agree – his comments seemed slightly manic, carried away by a vision which might not be as ethereal as he thought.

  5. A great post, thank you. I note when Neptune was in Leo and Sagittarius, it greatly influenced Hollywood, glamour and the quality of the film’s.

  6. ‘The ill-fated Darien Scheme, which lost 20% of Scotland’s money, led to the Act of Union with England in 1707’

    Just a thought but I wonder whether this time around will be when Scotland revises/reverses the Act of Union then? Interesting in line with the rumblings over the last few years.

    Thanks Marjorie

  7. You are so right, GnarlyDude, one of the longer cycles which began to form around the time of Henry VIII and the reign of Queen Elizabeth I was the Pluto cycle – the second Pluto return occuring now, and marks the end of the cycle with Queen Elizabeth II (who has tr Pluto over the asc. into the first house natally at the moment) and to my mind the end of the monarchy

    On the morning of the day Prince William was born I quickly did a chart, before going to work, which had Sun and Moon in Gemini. At lunchtime the baby had still not been born and I did another chart – I watched during the afternoon and early evening as both Sun and Moon moved in the sign of Cancer – (new Moon). When Prince William was finally born with Neptune rising in the 12th house conj asc and opposite the astrologer’s degree 25 Gemini, Pluto trine that same degree and with Venus in Taurus at 25 degrees conjunct Chiron, I would have marked this as the chart of a healer and a conduit of higher knowledge. It is only in the last few years I realised how this will come to fruition – as you so correctly say 2036ish

  8. The beginning of the 2030 decade will be a huge shift for the royal family and it is reflected in the chart of the grandchildren as well so definitely big changes are destined to occur. We are here to evolve and learn, not stay the same so we will inevitably see changes once the Queen and Charles pass over the next decade. The planetary shifts that were triggered in 2020 set off what is meant to become the largest awakening of the collective conscious.
    We haven’t even gotten to the U.S. Pluto Return which will expose dark secrets that have occurred during the 200 year transit so there will be a lot of looking in the mirror and cleaning up to do. It will be Interesting to see how these stories come alive in mainstream media since they have been intentionally suppressed for decades. Buckle up. Fascinating times ahead. What a time to be alive!

    • Good comments, Conscious, also very relevant are the charts of the childre of Prince William in the astrological mix, the great grand children of Queen Elizabeth II

  9. Rehashing this but, I’m noting the 878-892AD transit with Alfred the Great unifying England.

    That’s when the “Prince William” Saros that ends in 2036ish started. The one that is suggested to be the end of the monarchy. Astrologically seems hard to believe it will survive in its current form with Pluto in Aqua.

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