Please add below. Older posts under News on the top bar.
34 thoughts on “Questions & Comments”
Good morning Marjorie
When have time can update update Heavenly Headlines.
ROCHESTER PD DETAIN, PEPPER SPRAY 9-YR-OLD GIRL (reported on TMZ)
The child wouldn’t get into the car and the male officer said ‘.. Stop it, you’re behaving like a child …’ to which the girl responded ‘…. I am a child …’. He then instructed the female officer to pepper spray her and she did.
I really don’t think anyone, not even Hollywood, could have made up the incidences of the past couple of years or so that have occurred and been reported. Has the USA completely lost the plot with their Pluto return drawing nearer?
Unbelieveable!!
Marjorie,
any thoughts regarding QAnon Georgia Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene? She’s been making the news a lot lately because she’s participated in a number of dangerous conspiracy theories, she’s supported threats of violence against Democratic politicians, and she recently harassed Democratic Congresswoman Cori Bush over wearing a face mask. According various news sources, the harassment was so extreme that Nancy Pelosi allowed Cori Bush to move her office away from Marjorie Taylor Greene’s.
Chris, I watched some shocking footage of her stalking Parkland shooting survivor David Hogg, accusing him of all sorts of wild conspiratorial activities and calling him a coward. I believe there is a petition to remove her and Lauren Boebert.
@ Virgoflake,
I saw that footage. David Hogg ignored Greene and continued walking…but Greene continued insulting him (calling him a coward, etc.). It really was disgusting.
She’s continuing to harass him on social media, I see.
I did have a look at her astrology and she has a T square on Mars and has the conspirator’s Mercury square Pluto, but I’m also interested in Marjorie’s take on the chart.
Hi Marjorie
Can you look at the steep gains in shares of GameStop and other stocks have been described as populist market revolts against Hedge fund managers (elites).
What will happen to the stock market establishment and the whole economic system if this keeps repeating? Is this part of Aquarius Age
Marjorie this is a question about myself,
I have tr. Pluto conj. my Sun/Mars midpoint (in my 11th house at 26.19 Cap.) starting this year. Briefly, what might this bring?
David
I second this request.
This is such a weird, and interesting twist on investing/gambling in stocks.
The hedge fund angle, the Reddit groups, the affect on the whole market, the possibilities of manipulation by bad actors, idealists etc. etc.
The element of another avenue for emotional manipulation through internet interaction
The response from leaders in business & government
Lots of stuff here
Thanks, Chris. Always good to get feedback from you, a fellow Dem and neighbor–I live next-door
in now-purple Georgia. Saddened to learn that Rubio is so popular in Florida. Also did not know about
the 7-year residency requirement. I do think, however, that Ivanka will run for office someday. She
has ambition written all over her. During Daddy Don’s Oval Office tenure she clearly relished her high-
profile White House role. Being a Scorpio, it’s gotta be difficult for her to let go of that kind of power.
Can we get a look at Fox News, CNN and MSNBC(now being run by a black woman) for the next 4 years given that Fox’s 20 year top dog run has officially been dethroned by CNN?
I definitely think Ivanka wants to run for SOMETHING. She strikes me as extremely ambitious, a Scorpio no less. There are
myriad articles coming out re her political aspirations, some throwing cold water on the idea, others seeing it as a given that she’ll take on Marco Rubio. I think her move to Florida is strategic. I’ve read that Jared sees her as a rising star in politics and is working behind the scenes to bolster her prospects thereof.
“Ivanka, you’re always on a run now/ running after somebody, you got to get him somehow…’
I think it’s Rubio’s seat, too. I don’t buy that “they are not welcome to New York” line people say is the reason for them ditching NY. Charlie Kushner hired a prostitute to frame his brother-in-law when he discovered BIL was collaborating with Feds. Yet Jared got likes of Mike Bloomberg and Henry Kissinger to mentor him.
@ Julie,
The media talk about Ivanka Trump running for public office here in Florida is actually premature. Here in Florida, it’s a requirement that a person be a resident of this state for at least 7 years before they’re even eligible to run for public office. She hasn’t come anywhere to meeting the residency requirement since she just moved here.
Also, if for the sake of argument, the heavily Republican-dominated Florida State Legislature decided to bend the rules for her (like not requiring her to meet the 7 year residency requirement), then Ivanka would likely have to primary challenge an already seated Republican (since all state offices except for Agricultural Commissioner are held by the GOP here in Florida). Most of these Republicans have been longtime incumbents and some are even “Florida Natives” (who’s families have lived in this state since the mid-19th century) – they would be hard for her to beat, even if she is Donald’s daughter.
As for the notion of Ivanka Trump primary challenging Marco Rubio for his Senate seat, that can be dismissed altogether. Rubio is actually very popular with Latino Republican voters, “Never Trump” Republican voters, and conservative Independent voters. Rubio was born and raised in this state and he’s got his base wrapped around his finger. In 2016, Rubio became the U.S. Senator to receive the most votes of any U.S. Senator in Floridian electoral history…and he actually has an approval rating that’s higher than Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis.
I believe a few data polling and social researching firms did conducted a few hypothetical match up polls and projection model simulations between Marco Rubio and Ivanka Trump…and Marco Rubio defeated her in practically all of them.
Anyway, I don’t like Ivanka Trump, Marco Rubio, or the Republican Party…..so, I have attachment to any of them. I’m just saying that Ivanka Trump is unlikely to have any kind of expedient political future here.
I’m not sure how kosher the below is
“Explosive new book claims the KGB began grooming ‘young and vain’ Donald Trump 40 years ago by saving him from financial ruin and turned him into a Russian asset who gave Putin ‘everything he wanted’ as president. American Kompromat How the KGB Cultivated Donald Trump, and Related Tales of Sex, Greed, Power, and Treachery by Craig Unger out January 26.
And if it is true how much traction it will get. But it would surely explain those high stress influences on the Trump/Ghislaine Maxwell relationship chart from 2020 to 2023/4. Tr Pluto square the composite Neptune, opposition the Uranus this year and tr Pluto square the composite Saturn 2021/22 – moving on to a scary, trapped square to the composite Mars in 2022/23. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9184687/How-Russia-began-grooming-Donald-Trump-40-years-ago-saving-financial-ruin-book-claims.html
This looks intriguing, Marjorie! I’ve found another book, published 2017, called ‘Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money, and How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win” by Luke Harding. In an article on Politico.com based on that book it says Trump’s first invitation, and trip, to Moscow was in the 80’s.
On 4th July 1987 (!) he and Ivana flew to Moscow, apparently, to discuss building a hotel there. Mercury was retrograde in Cancer. Trump had Neptune square his natal Neptune/Mercury square, and Pluto in Scorpio coming up to square itself in the 12th – how many secrets and hidden forces might that suggest? Tr Jupiter in Aries was trine his Leo Mars, so I’d imagine he’d be very enthusiastic and feel good or even reckless around that time too. He mentions it in The Art of the Deal, so not much mystery about the trip itself, just what might have gone on behind the scenes.
Marjorie this book does look interesting, and having just watched Navalny’s almost 2 hour exposé of Putin and cronies all i can think is that the KGB appears to be an astute judge of character, seemingly capable of foreseeing who is the most easily biddable and corruptible of them all. But maybe it has always been thus throughout the ages. These vain men (and women) with their lust for gold!
The NHS is obviously under immense pressure at this time and the word “collapse” is bandied about frequently in the press. Is there a suitable chart for the organisation and, if so , what does it reveal for the months and years ahead?
From an earlier post April 6 2020:
The National Health Service (NHS) was founded on 5 July 1948. The Cancer Sun has been rattled by the Eclipses of late, including the Lunar Eclipse of this July; with even more challenges from the December 2020 Sagittarius Eclipse and the June 2021 Gemini Solar Eclipse which will be shaking up its T Square of Venus Uranus Mercury (Moon) opposition Jupiter square Mars in Virgo. 2021 looks its most testing year with panics from an undermining tr Neptune opposition the Mars and square Jupiter; and a forced-upheaval and disruption from tr Uranus square the Pluto. The pressures will stay in place till mid decade; and it looks as if it will struggle mightily to cope with the workload.
Thank you
Marjorie,
Since.you wrote a post about Janet Yellen, I was wondering if you wouldn’t mind taking a look at Deb Haaland too.
Deb Haaland is a Native American Democratic Congresswoman from New Mexico and she has been nominated by President Joe Biden to lead the Interior Department.
If confirmed (and she likely will be), Deb Haaland will make history (or I should say HERstory) as the first Indigenous / Native American person to head the Interior Department (a very important office that manages federal lands and natural resources, and their conservation and protection).
Native Americans (who overwhelmingly voted for Biden and helped him win states like Arizona and Wisconsin) are really excited about Haaland and the progressives are excited too since Haaland is part of the progressive wing of the Democratic Party.
Marjorie: There’s a lot of talk about Ivanka Trump’s political aspirations. The latest buzz has her
eyeing Marco Rubio’s senate seat in Florida, a state that’s increasingly looking like the capital of
MAGA Land. Rubio says she’d have a tough fight if she decides to run. Can you look at her prospects
politically? Does she stand a chance of becoming a prominent figure in the halls of Congress? From
outward appearances, she’s one ambitious entitled princess.
I don’t think there’s any truth to that. I don’t think that’s what she really wants, but she did want the role when her father gave her a role. When sitting behind her father at times, you could tell by the look on her face that some of the things he’d say unnerved her. Yes, she can be phony and yes, she can have hidden agendas. While she and her brothers will be losing lots of the family money, she has the fortunes of the Kushners to fall back on, and Tiffany Trump is marrying into another wealthy family, too. I think her crying when her father left office had something to do with recognizing how horrible he had been. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA5ieFsq96U
I hear that Jeremy Hunt is being talked about as a possible Johnson replacement. What do the cards suggest is in store for him?
Nothing that looks anything but disappointing on his chart ahead for 2021 and probably 2022 – that’s without a birth time. 2024 looks more upbeat
Good Morning Marjorie….In conjunction with Troy’s question about Schumer I would like to know about McConnell. Will his time of reckoning ever come? Considering the damage he has done isn’t there a bill to be paid?
I’m also wondering about McConnell’s health. He was seen with blue hands a little while back.
Tomorrow.
Greetings Marjorie.
More GOP Senators are not planning to run in 2022 citing tiresome gridlock. Can we now get an official reading on Chuck Schumer’s prospects going forward?
Italy – Since the end of World War II, Italy has had 66 governments, at an average of one every 1.14 years. A revolving carousel, here today and oops gone tomorrow.
@Marjorie, and the consensus among my very politically varied Italian FB friendlist seem to be this is the stupidest government crisis they’ve seen!
Nobody is happy to be entering 2nd year of often confusing covid-19 restrictions, but they definitely don’t want more incertainty. Matteo Renzi, who acted as the catalyst of the crisis, is mercilessly dragged at his local newspaper news link on failed mall (not The Mall, a luxury brand outlet) his father seemed to have interest in.
So, yes, a nothingburger.
@Solaia. You said to me he always moves at the wrong time. I thought so too, but on closer reflection I wonder if he’s actually making a strategic move. He’s created this crisis at a time when Conte doesn’t have majority support. Conte resigned today. Maybe Renzi is planning to be “coaxed” back to the coalition with the offer of a much more influential position. He has been able to manouevre himself to Prime Minister against the odds before. Yes, Renzi is dreadfully unpopular, but if the President decides not to call an election, (and they are all terrified Salvini will win) the President will choose who to ask to lead the next coalition government, not the electorate. I wouldn’t put it past that little pipsqueak to worm his way in. That’s why I wondered about his chart. I’m probably wrong though.
@Sarah C, I looked at Renzi’s chart. He has Mercury/Venus at 4′ and 6′ Aquarius, so Jupiter/Saturn has been giving him a confidence boost over the past month or so. But as Jupiter influence starts to vane, he will be left with Saturn and dealing with consequences. His timing issues are likely due to natal Uranus in Scorpio square that Mercury/Venus. Thinking things through isn’t his forte. Also, a chart set for Florence, where he was born, gives him an exact(0’20 degree orb) Mars conjunction to Descendant. He has a rare, innate capacity to antagonize people, for sure!
Matteo Salvini has gone through a Jupiter return these days, and will have more to come in 2022/2023, with Jupiter transiting on his Piscean planets. I think Marjorie was alluding to these when she pronounced “more triumphs” at this period on her May 29th 2018 post. That said, Salvini has a Leo MC and Aquarius IC. Saturn on IC or entering 4th house usually indicates a less visible public profile. I think there’s a general consensus, even within his own party, that his work ethics are not in par with his ambitions (Mars in Capricorn). It’s said he hardly showed up at Ministry of Interior during his stint as Minister. He also has a new, younger girlfriend approaching her Saturn Return. She will want to have a family. In this situation he just might let his very strong desire for comfort get better of him if pushed by likes of Giorgia Meloni – Capricorn Sun, Mercury, Mars and possibly Moon, who will not stop at first, second or even third career setback, but will likely keep on pushing.
@Solaia, that is wonderful, thank you so much for having at look at those charts. I don’t know what it is about Renzi but he really stirs up an instinctive dislike in me. (Must have a Renzi in my shadow somewhere 🙁 )My husband said to me he couldn’t imagine anyone wanting to take over as head of the government at the moment as it’s a poison chalice. Re Salvini I remember too there was a lot of talk about him being somewhat workshy in the day to day running of things. Let’s hope nothing gets disturbed too much here, it’s the last thing Italy needs right now. Again thank you so much for this. 🙂
Good morning Marjorie
When have time can update update Heavenly Headlines.
ROCHESTER PD DETAIN, PEPPER SPRAY 9-YR-OLD GIRL (reported on TMZ)
The child wouldn’t get into the car and the male officer said ‘.. Stop it, you’re behaving like a child …’ to which the girl responded ‘…. I am a child …’. He then instructed the female officer to pepper spray her and she did.
I really don’t think anyone, not even Hollywood, could have made up the incidences of the past couple of years or so that have occurred and been reported. Has the USA completely lost the plot with their Pluto return drawing nearer?
Unbelieveable!!
Marjorie,
any thoughts regarding QAnon Georgia Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene? She’s been making the news a lot lately because she’s participated in a number of dangerous conspiracy theories, she’s supported threats of violence against Democratic politicians, and she recently harassed Democratic Congresswoman Cori Bush over wearing a face mask. According various news sources, the harassment was so extreme that Nancy Pelosi allowed Cori Bush to move her office away from Marjorie Taylor Greene’s.
Chris, I watched some shocking footage of her stalking Parkland shooting survivor David Hogg, accusing him of all sorts of wild conspiratorial activities and calling him a coward. I believe there is a petition to remove her and Lauren Boebert.
@ Virgoflake,
I saw that footage. David Hogg ignored Greene and continued walking…but Greene continued insulting him (calling him a coward, etc.). It really was disgusting.
She’s continuing to harass him on social media, I see.
I did have a look at her astrology and she has a T square on Mars and has the conspirator’s Mercury square Pluto, but I’m also interested in Marjorie’s take on the chart.
Hi Marjorie
Can you look at the steep gains in shares of GameStop and other stocks have been described as populist market revolts against Hedge fund managers (elites).
What will happen to the stock market establishment and the whole economic system if this keeps repeating? Is this part of Aquarius Age
Marjorie this is a question about myself,
I have tr. Pluto conj. my Sun/Mars midpoint (in my 11th house at 26.19 Cap.) starting this year. Briefly, what might this bring?
David
I second this request.
This is such a weird, and interesting twist on investing/gambling in stocks.
The hedge fund angle, the Reddit groups, the affect on the whole market, the possibilities of manipulation by bad actors, idealists etc. etc.
The element of another avenue for emotional manipulation through internet interaction
The response from leaders in business & government
Lots of stuff here
Thanks, Chris. Always good to get feedback from you, a fellow Dem and neighbor–I live next-door
in now-purple Georgia. Saddened to learn that Rubio is so popular in Florida. Also did not know about
the 7-year residency requirement. I do think, however, that Ivanka will run for office someday. She
has ambition written all over her. During Daddy Don’s Oval Office tenure she clearly relished her high-
profile White House role. Being a Scorpio, it’s gotta be difficult for her to let go of that kind of power.
Can we get a look at Fox News, CNN and MSNBC(now being run by a black woman) for the next 4 years given that Fox’s 20 year top dog run has officially been dethroned by CNN?
I definitely think Ivanka wants to run for SOMETHING. She strikes me as extremely ambitious, a Scorpio no less. There are
myriad articles coming out re her political aspirations, some throwing cold water on the idea, others seeing it as a given that she’ll take on Marco Rubio. I think her move to Florida is strategic. I’ve read that Jared sees her as a rising star in politics and is working behind the scenes to bolster her prospects thereof.
“Ivanka, you’re always on a run now/ running after somebody, you got to get him somehow…’
I think it’s Rubio’s seat, too. I don’t buy that “they are not welcome to New York” line people say is the reason for them ditching NY. Charlie Kushner hired a prostitute to frame his brother-in-law when he discovered BIL was collaborating with Feds. Yet Jared got likes of Mike Bloomberg and Henry Kissinger to mentor him.
@ Julie,
The media talk about Ivanka Trump running for public office here in Florida is actually premature. Here in Florida, it’s a requirement that a person be a resident of this state for at least 7 years before they’re even eligible to run for public office. She hasn’t come anywhere to meeting the residency requirement since she just moved here.
Also, if for the sake of argument, the heavily Republican-dominated Florida State Legislature decided to bend the rules for her (like not requiring her to meet the 7 year residency requirement), then Ivanka would likely have to primary challenge an already seated Republican (since all state offices except for Agricultural Commissioner are held by the GOP here in Florida). Most of these Republicans have been longtime incumbents and some are even “Florida Natives” (who’s families have lived in this state since the mid-19th century) – they would be hard for her to beat, even if she is Donald’s daughter.
As for the notion of Ivanka Trump primary challenging Marco Rubio for his Senate seat, that can be dismissed altogether. Rubio is actually very popular with Latino Republican voters, “Never Trump” Republican voters, and conservative Independent voters. Rubio was born and raised in this state and he’s got his base wrapped around his finger. In 2016, Rubio became the U.S. Senator to receive the most votes of any U.S. Senator in Floridian electoral history…and he actually has an approval rating that’s higher than Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis.
I believe a few data polling and social researching firms did conducted a few hypothetical match up polls and projection model simulations between Marco Rubio and Ivanka Trump…and Marco Rubio defeated her in practically all of them.
Anyway, I don’t like Ivanka Trump, Marco Rubio, or the Republican Party…..so, I have attachment to any of them. I’m just saying that Ivanka Trump is unlikely to have any kind of expedient political future here.
I’m not sure how kosher the below is
“Explosive new book claims the KGB began grooming ‘young and vain’ Donald Trump 40 years ago by saving him from financial ruin and turned him into a Russian asset who gave Putin ‘everything he wanted’ as president. American Kompromat How the KGB Cultivated Donald Trump, and Related Tales of Sex, Greed, Power, and Treachery by Craig Unger out January 26.
And if it is true how much traction it will get. But it would surely explain those high stress influences on the Trump/Ghislaine Maxwell relationship chart from 2020 to 2023/4. Tr Pluto square the composite Neptune, opposition the Uranus this year and tr Pluto square the composite Saturn 2021/22 – moving on to a scary, trapped square to the composite Mars in 2022/23.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9184687/How-Russia-began-grooming-Donald-Trump-40-years-ago-saving-financial-ruin-book-claims.html
This looks intriguing, Marjorie! I’ve found another book, published 2017, called ‘Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money, and How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win” by Luke Harding. In an article on Politico.com based on that book it says Trump’s first invitation, and trip, to Moscow was in the 80’s.
On 4th July 1987 (!) he and Ivana flew to Moscow, apparently, to discuss building a hotel there. Mercury was retrograde in Cancer. Trump had Neptune square his natal Neptune/Mercury square, and Pluto in Scorpio coming up to square itself in the 12th – how many secrets and hidden forces might that suggest? Tr Jupiter in Aries was trine his Leo Mars, so I’d imagine he’d be very enthusiastic and feel good or even reckless around that time too. He mentions it in The Art of the Deal, so not much mystery about the trip itself, just what might have gone on behind the scenes.
Marjorie this book does look interesting, and having just watched Navalny’s almost 2 hour exposé of Putin and cronies all i can think is that the KGB appears to be an astute judge of character, seemingly capable of foreseeing who is the most easily biddable and corruptible of them all. But maybe it has always been thus throughout the ages. These vain men (and women) with their lust for gold!
The NHS is obviously under immense pressure at this time and the word “collapse” is bandied about frequently in the press. Is there a suitable chart for the organisation and, if so , what does it reveal for the months and years ahead?
From an earlier post April 6 2020:
The National Health Service (NHS) was founded on 5 July 1948. The Cancer Sun has been rattled by the Eclipses of late, including the Lunar Eclipse of this July; with even more challenges from the December 2020 Sagittarius Eclipse and the June 2021 Gemini Solar Eclipse which will be shaking up its T Square of Venus Uranus Mercury (Moon) opposition Jupiter square Mars in Virgo. 2021 looks its most testing year with panics from an undermining tr Neptune opposition the Mars and square Jupiter; and a forced-upheaval and disruption from tr Uranus square the Pluto. The pressures will stay in place till mid decade; and it looks as if it will struggle mightily to cope with the workload.
Thank you
Marjorie,
Since.you wrote a post about Janet Yellen, I was wondering if you wouldn’t mind taking a look at Deb Haaland too.
Deb Haaland is a Native American Democratic Congresswoman from New Mexico and she has been nominated by President Joe Biden to lead the Interior Department.
If confirmed (and she likely will be), Deb Haaland will make history (or I should say HERstory) as the first Indigenous / Native American person to head the Interior Department (a very important office that manages federal lands and natural resources, and their conservation and protection).
Native Americans (who overwhelmingly voted for Biden and helped him win states like Arizona and Wisconsin) are really excited about Haaland and the progressives are excited too since Haaland is part of the progressive wing of the Democratic Party.
Marjorie: There’s a lot of talk about Ivanka Trump’s political aspirations. The latest buzz has her
eyeing Marco Rubio’s senate seat in Florida, a state that’s increasingly looking like the capital of
MAGA Land. Rubio says she’d have a tough fight if she decides to run. Can you look at her prospects
politically? Does she stand a chance of becoming a prominent figure in the halls of Congress? From
outward appearances, she’s one ambitious entitled princess.
I don’t think there’s any truth to that. I don’t think that’s what she really wants, but she did want the role when her father gave her a role. When sitting behind her father at times, you could tell by the look on her face that some of the things he’d say unnerved her. Yes, she can be phony and yes, she can have hidden agendas. While she and her brothers will be losing lots of the family money, she has the fortunes of the Kushners to fall back on, and Tiffany Trump is marrying into another wealthy family, too. I think her crying when her father left office had something to do with recognizing how horrible he had been. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA5ieFsq96U
I hear that Jeremy Hunt is being talked about as a possible Johnson replacement. What do the cards suggest is in store for him?
Nothing that looks anything but disappointing on his chart ahead for 2021 and probably 2022 – that’s without a birth time. 2024 looks more upbeat
Good Morning Marjorie….In conjunction with Troy’s question about Schumer I would like to know about McConnell. Will his time of reckoning ever come? Considering the damage he has done isn’t there a bill to be paid?
I’m also wondering about McConnell’s health. He was seen with blue hands a little while back.
Tomorrow.
Greetings Marjorie.
More GOP Senators are not planning to run in 2022 citing tiresome gridlock. Can we now get an official reading on Chuck Schumer’s prospects going forward?
Italy – Since the end of World War II, Italy has had 66 governments, at an average of one every 1.14 years. A revolving carousel, here today and oops gone tomorrow.
@Marjorie, and the consensus among my very politically varied Italian FB friendlist seem to be this is the stupidest government crisis they’ve seen!
Nobody is happy to be entering 2nd year of often confusing covid-19 restrictions, but they definitely don’t want more incertainty. Matteo Renzi, who acted as the catalyst of the crisis, is mercilessly dragged at his local newspaper news link on failed mall (not The Mall, a luxury brand outlet) his father seemed to have interest in.
So, yes, a nothingburger.
@Solaia. You said to me he always moves at the wrong time. I thought so too, but on closer reflection I wonder if he’s actually making a strategic move. He’s created this crisis at a time when Conte doesn’t have majority support. Conte resigned today. Maybe Renzi is planning to be “coaxed” back to the coalition with the offer of a much more influential position. He has been able to manouevre himself to Prime Minister against the odds before. Yes, Renzi is dreadfully unpopular, but if the President decides not to call an election, (and they are all terrified Salvini will win) the President will choose who to ask to lead the next coalition government, not the electorate. I wouldn’t put it past that little pipsqueak to worm his way in. That’s why I wondered about his chart. I’m probably wrong though.
@Sarah C, I looked at Renzi’s chart. He has Mercury/Venus at 4′ and 6′ Aquarius, so Jupiter/Saturn has been giving him a confidence boost over the past month or so. But as Jupiter influence starts to vane, he will be left with Saturn and dealing with consequences. His timing issues are likely due to natal Uranus in Scorpio square that Mercury/Venus. Thinking things through isn’t his forte. Also, a chart set for Florence, where he was born, gives him an exact(0’20 degree orb) Mars conjunction to Descendant. He has a rare, innate capacity to antagonize people, for sure!
Matteo Salvini has gone through a Jupiter return these days, and will have more to come in 2022/2023, with Jupiter transiting on his Piscean planets. I think Marjorie was alluding to these when she pronounced “more triumphs” at this period on her May 29th 2018 post. That said, Salvini has a Leo MC and Aquarius IC. Saturn on IC or entering 4th house usually indicates a less visible public profile. I think there’s a general consensus, even within his own party, that his work ethics are not in par with his ambitions (Mars in Capricorn). It’s said he hardly showed up at Ministry of Interior during his stint as Minister. He also has a new, younger girlfriend approaching her Saturn Return. She will want to have a family. In this situation he just might let his very strong desire for comfort get better of him if pushed by likes of Giorgia Meloni – Capricorn Sun, Mercury, Mars and possibly Moon, who will not stop at first, second or even third career setback, but will likely keep on pushing.
@Solaia, that is wonderful, thank you so much for having at look at those charts. I don’t know what it is about Renzi but he really stirs up an instinctive dislike in me. (Must have a Renzi in my shadow somewhere 🙁 )My husband said to me he couldn’t imagine anyone wanting to take over as head of the government at the moment as it’s a poison chalice. Re Salvini I remember too there was a lot of talk about him being somewhat workshy in the day to day running of things. Let’s hope nothing gets disturbed too much here, it’s the last thing Italy needs right now. Again thank you so much for this. 🙂