Liam and Noel – an incendiary brotherhood

Liam and Noel Gallagher back together on stage in Cardiff after an acrimonious split 16 years ago sent an audience of 75,000 fans into ecstasy with an Oasis concert which made up for in exuberance what it lacked in nuance and subtlety.

 After a brief hug, the once-warring siblings walking out hand-in-hand with Liam firmly in control, looking the more dominant of the two.

  Liam, 21 September 1972 12.56pm, Burnage, England, does have an amped up chart with an ambitious, assertive Sun Mars in Virgo on his midheaven square Jupiter in Sagittarius opposition Saturn so he will tend to be volatile, argumentative and short-fused.

Noel, 29 May 1967, no birth time, Manchester, is a Sun Gemini sextile Saturn in Aries on one side and Jupiter in Leo on the other. He has the unsettled, unpredictable Uranus Pluto conjunction in Virgo and a not-always-sensitive Mars in Libra square Venus in emotional Cancer.

  The main problem between them is Mars Uranus. Noel’s Mars is conjunct Liam’s Uranus and Liam’s ambitious, argumentative Mars is conjunct Noel’s Uranus and Pluto. Liam’s controlling Pluto is also trine Noel’s Sun.

  Mars Uranus can be an explosive combination with a no-compromise response from either side. They would get under each other’s skin from the start, with trivial differences flaring up into major conflagrations – until Noel reached the point of no return.

 Their relationship chart has a close composite Mars Uranus conjunction which is sextile a friendly affectionate Sun Venus conjunction. The fight for individuality would win out over blood ties.

 In late August 2009 when the elastic finally snapped there was an angry, enraged tr Mars opposition tr Pluto square tr Mercury rattling up their composite Mars Uranus conjunction; and an equally high-tension, crockery-throwing tr Saturn opposition tr Uranus which was tugging on their composite Pluto. There was no way they would manage to steer together through the storms that would create for several years thereafter. Tr Pluto was also squaring Liam’s controlling 10th house Pluto, perhaps hinting at a need for self-reflection and psychological change.

  With maturity – and hopes of a financial windfall from the concert tour – there may be a less scratchy chemistry at the moment. Liam certainly looks likely to be receiving money in quantity over coming months with tr Jupiter moving through his 8th house. Noel has tr Pluto opposition his Jupiter throughout this year which will help bring success.

 Tr Pluto is opposing their composite Sun Venus this year which on the best interpretation could suggest a transformation of their relationship – though it will cause strains – and that will run side by side with tr Saturn Neptune opposing the composite Mars Uranus midpoint through 2026/27 – so holding their togetherness together won’t be easy.

9 thoughts on “Liam and Noel – an incendiary brotherhood

  1. If I ask Brave Search AI, I get a nice breakdown:

    “Mars Uranus Conjunct

    Mars conjunct Uranus in synastry refers to the dynamic interaction between two individuals where one person’s Mars is in conjunction with the other person’s Uranus. This aspect can create a powerful and electrifying connection, characterized by a strong desire for excitement, independence, and freedom. The person with Mars in this position may feel a magnetic pull towards the person with Uranus, as they are drawn to the unpredictability and spontaneity that the Uranus person brings into their life.

    In synastry, Mars conjunct Uranus can lead to a relationship that is filled with energy, passion, and a sense of adventure. The Mars person may find the Uranus person to be a source of inspiration and a challenge, while the Uranus person may appreciate the Mars person’s drive and determination. However, this aspect can also bring challenges, as the Mars person may feel that the Uranus person is too erratic or unpredictable, while the Uranus person may find the Mars person to be too controlling or rigid.

    The Mars conjunct Uranus aspect in synastry can also influence the way the two individuals approach relationships. The Mars person may be more inclined to take risks and seek out new experiences, while the Uranus person may be more interested in exploring new ideas and concepts. This can lead to a relationship that is both exciting and challenging, as both individuals may need to learn to balance their need for independence with their desire for connection.

    Overall, Mars conjunct Uranus in synastry can create a relationship that is full of energy, excitement, and potential. However, it is important for both individuals to communicate openly and work together to navigate the challenges that may arise from this aspect.”

  2. I have that Mars on Uranus aspect with a parent and with an ex. It’s so hard to get around because things start exploding before we consciously realize it. Then the white hot rage arrives and it’s too late to manage. A very very difficult synastry.

  3. Thank you Marjorie, that has gone a long way towards explaining to me the animosity that exists between my two daughters, one born 21/04/67 and the other 14/04/72. Although not exactly the same as the Gallagher brothers, it does now help me to see in their charts where the clashes occur. They have not enjoyed each other’s company for around 45 years which I find very sad.

  4. My Mars in Aries inconjunct my sibling’s Uranus in Scorpio. There was short fuse/anger from both sides. I find my sibling controlling, manipulating, emotional “blackmailing” all while growing up. The interesting thing is we also have moon conjunct moon so we are still on talking terms with some cold war happening every few years the longest lasting for months. Maybe like they say things get easier with age? I have a Saturn in Scorpio (too wide for aspect). Every so often I just want leave everything and leave the country and leave sibling to pick up the pieces of the parents for not being so appreciative.

    • I did wonder if they both had the same Moon, given the ‘no time of birth’ for one of the siblings, but didn’t check the ephemeris. To be honest, it doesn’t look likely.

      • Moon in Aquarius conjunct is not the same as Moon in Pisces conjunct. There is also a third possibility out of sign conjunction. Depending on the household growing up out of sign conjunction can be prominent to the native or not.

          • Yes you are right. I noticed it after I posted that Liam’s chart has a birth time and option 3 is also impossible if one do tight orb of less than 3 degree. That why I think I should not always be so quick to reply or I will be sprouting nonsense.

          • Well, we have an answer – Moon positions on the day Noel was born:

            12° Aqu 35’ (00:00)
            18° Aqu 56’ (12:00)
            25° Aqu 11’ (23:59).

            So he is definitely an Aquarius Moon.

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