USA – living up to its reputation for violence ++ Thomas Crooks

The attempted assassination of Donald Trump for reasons unknown by a 20 year old apparently Republican-registered shooter has been taken as a critical moment in the election run-up with an iconic fist-pumping photograph of Trump going viral.

  Two astrological influences were spot on. Firstly the transiting Uranus, Mars, Algol of the moment was exactly square Trump’s bombastic Mars in Leo which usually accompanies a shock and a resulting over-reaction. It tends to be explosive whether in producing accidents, collisions of sorts, or even heart-related incidents in older individuals with a subsequent wild response to an experience which threatens to dent self-esteem. The same Uranus transit to his Mars returns throughout this October and again late April to mid May 2025.

 The other, on the USA chart is the Solar Arc Saturn being exactly conjunct the USA Mars, exact to a minute of a degree on the 11am chart. This is the start of a three year run of the two key squares in the USA chart colliding. The Solar Arc Sun square SA Saturn crashes into the USA Mars square Neptune. Usually when this happens it is a phase of rolling crises.  The last time was between 1935 and 1939.  

   Firstly there is the accident/assassination prone SA Saturn on Mars exactly now; then an uncertain, panicky SA Saturn square USA Neptune in 2025; an angry, collision-type event or series thereof in 2026 from SA Sun square the USA Mars; and a lacklustre, undermining opposition to the Neptune in 2027.

  On the Sibly USA chart the Solar Arc Mars is exactly conjunct the Moon now – and both will be jolted by tr Uranus square in this August.

  Horrifying though this incident is, the USA has a long history of political assassinations with four sitting presidents shot dead and failed attempts to shoot several more. A similar attempt to this one occurred in 1912 when “Teddy” Roosevelt was running for a non-consecutive second term as president. He continued giving his speech with blood soaking through his shirt which consolidated his reputation for bravado but it was not enough to win him re-election.

On Trump’s chart tr Jupiter and tr Uranus are now moving across his 10th house. Jupiter stays there till June 2025 and is usually a high profile time which can be successful or catch headlines for other reasons. Tr Jupiter is conjunct his 10th house Uranus in late November which should provide a lucky break in a minor way. Tr Uranus hints at a change of direction in his career/life (assuming the birth time is accurate) and runs on for years ahead.

 Apart from transiting Neptune hard aspects to two of his Mercury midpoints now till early October there is not much else showing in his chart – they will affect his concentration and perhaps give rise to more evasiveness than usual. January 2025 looks like an uphill slog for him. By the election his Solar Arc Neptune is exactly conjunct his South Node, moving on in 2025/26 to conjunct his Moon and oppose his Sun – he’ll either be dissolving into a fog of confusion or be exhibiting the worst of his delusional leanings.

 Of those closest to him – both Donald Trump Jnr and Lara Trump have confidently upbeat transits to a Jupiter midpoint late this December to mid March 2025. Though Eric Trump and Barron are showing extreme frustration and disappointment. Nothing conclusive out of that.

The Inauguration chart for 2025 is nothing like as tricky as for 2021.

 Interesting to see how the pro-gun MAGA will spin the atrocity.

ADD ON: According to electoral registration the shooter Thomas Crooks was born 20 September 2003 making him a Sun Virgo with Mars in Pisces conjunct Uranus in last degree Aquarius opposition his Jupiter – an excitable, impulsive temperament.  His Pluto in Sagittarius which is in an overly intense square to his Mercury is exactly opposition Trump’s Uranus giving him a desire to shift DT’s trajectory. Crooks’ Solar Arc Mars Uranus is now exactly square Trump’s North Node so he will have had quite a fated effect on Trump’s journey ahead – and it may not be quite what it seems at the moment.  

 Crooks’ midpoints double up on him being overly confident – Jupiter = Pluto/NNode and Pluto = Sun/Jupiter. As well as overly excitable – Pluto = Venus/Mars and Venus/Uranus; and prone to eruptions of anger with Saturn = Mars/NNode and Pluto opposition Saturn/NNode.

90 thoughts on “USA – living up to its reputation for violence ++ Thomas Crooks

  1. Here is Crook’s biwheel for the shooting event. Trans Jupiter is in Gemini exactly on his
    Asc. Jupiter is in Gemini….Trump is a Geminian…..Jupiter rules the 7th, Open Enemy…..
    Trump is his Open Enemy. Trump is shot in the right ear…..the right ear is ruled by
    Jupiter. Trump is Lucky he didn’t die. Jupiter rules luck. Jupiter signifies a prominent
    individual and also rules the Republicc Party. Jupiter in Gemini is in fall causing
    Crook to fall from grace. https://ibb.co/JyNSfzt
    Sepharial on Crook’s 13Gemini Asc….”crafty, subtle nature, secretive, revengeful,
    avaricious, and of a quick temper. It is a degree of voracity and self-seeking,”
    Sepharial on Crook’s 18Aquarius MC…”One whose nature will be warped by feelings of
    selfishness and jealousy. His mind will be cramped and warped by egotism. Such a one
    will be a source of hatred and malice towards others. Assumes an attitude of melancholy.
    It is a degree of isolation.

  2. Here is Thomas Crook’s speculative chart. Click on link and then click magnifier to enlarge.
    Note in the chart Crook’s natal Sun conjuncting Trump exactly ….an obsessed fatal attraction. Also the asteroid OswaldThomas joins the conjunction giving him similarity
    to the well known JFK presidential assassin Oswald
    https://ibb.co/3db1XPFM

  3. Crooks….Eris square Moon….anger issues.
    BML conj North Node…stuck in patterns of subjugation, oppression and domination
    that dim your light and delay you on the path toward your life purpose. He was
    bullied in school.

  4. “Crooks’ Solar Arc Mars Uranus is now exactly square Trump’s North Node so he will have had quite a fated effect on Trump’s journey ahead – and it may not be quite what it seems at the moment.”

    Crooks’ natal Nodes, 22 Taurus/Scorpio, fit exactly with J D Vance’s natal Venus 22 Leo, and Mars,22 Scorpio. The Mars/S Node link is a bit chilling.

  5. Interesting to see the disruptor moment -eg the Vance announcement-when big announcements are made on social media first, open to all comment, making so called mainstream media instantly obsolete. A return to the Roman forum and acta diurna, and the Greek Agora.

  6. A news site has questioned why there has been no official statement re Trump’s condition from the doctors that treated him. The Trump campaign is also remaining mum on the subject. Odd that there’s no follow-up re his condition. An attempted assassination of a U.S. presidential candidate that results in injury warrants some kind of public disclosure from the medical team involved. Usually there’s a press briefing. Yet….nothing. Again, odd. His blood pressure (for one thing) must have been through the roof.

    • So weird! Even if he was not a current candidate, one would think there would be a briefing and/or a conference for a former president. Allegedly, people are saying that the injury already looks to be healed -glimpses of the ear have been seen today. There was an attempt on Hitler’s life on 7/20/44, perforating an eardrum. I mention it since JD Vance called him “America’s Hitler.”

    • As a citizen, I would like to hear from the medical team whether it was shrapnel from a broken teleprompter or whether the ear was bleeding due to a bullet. There’s conflicting accounts. Also, want to hear from the docs regarding the prognosis because this can cause other issues to arise, such as tinnitus.

      • There’s an astonishing photo of the bullet blur that hit his ear. It was taken by the same photographer that captured Bush in the Kindergarten being told about the first plane strike on 9/11.

        The teleprompter wasn’t hit.

      • An article appeared on CNN hinting that a “high” calibre bullet was photographed.

        “Days after Trump survived an assassin’s high-caliber bullet, photographs from the immediate aftermath of the shooting – as Secret Service agents rushed him offstage during a rally in Butler County, Pennsylvania – are unavoidable on the streets of Milwaukee outside the Republican National Convention. His bloodied face and raised fist are plastered on T-shirts, hats, pins, as well as framed art, all for sale to the faithful. ”

        I haven’t seen the actual make/model describing the shooter’s weapon beyond “AR-style rifle”. AR-style rifle was chambered for .223 calibre. Hardly high calibre (or large calibre). Can someone add on?

  7. Has anyone heard of Lisa Salvatore? I found her video on Biden and Trump the other day, but just had the chance to go through it quickly, and she seemed O. K. I am now intrigued if she predicted something that has happened.

    • @El Aznar- I skipped through one of her videos and was not impressed. She says she doesn’t follow the news, which I don’t believe, but to each his own. Thanks

  8. Trump has a Pluto/Saturn midpoint at 1 Leo. This was being opposed by Pluto at the time of the assassination attempt but he had Venus conjunct the midpoint which possibly indicates why he escaped serious injury. The pressure on that midpoint remains and is going to be particularly intense on 3 January 2025 when Pluto at 1 Aquarius opposes Mars at 1 Leo.

      • Transiting Pluto at 1 Aquarius aligns with fixed star Altair, in the Constellation of Aquila, the Eagle. I’ve been curious about this for a while, since the Eagle is a symbol of the USA. Brady writes:

        “The eagle was the royal bird of Rome, and a symbol of male sovereignty. A modern country that has adopted this emblem is the USA, which has shown over the years its ability to bring down fire from the sky as an act of war probably more powerfully than any other country.”

        Altair is the alpha star in this constellation, the bird of Jupiter/Zeus, associated with fire, power, courage and determination but also bloodshed.

        Bearing in mind Trump’s ear was injured, there’s also a curious nugget from Vedic astrology:

        “Alpha (α Altair), with beta (β Alshain), and gamma (γ Tarazed) constituted the twenty-first nakshatra (Hindu Moon Mansion) Çravana, the Ear” (Constellations of Words)

        Moon Mansions divide the ecliptic into 27 or 28 sections. Each is linked to a fixed star or constellation.

        • The eagle is also an important bird for Albania (Shqipëria). And why some thing USA has Scoprio Rising, I think Neptune Cafe, because there are associations there as well with the eagle.

          • The eagle also appears on the emblems of many Balkan countries (who get it from the Byzantine Empire, who in turn got it from Rome) and other countries like Mexico.

            I wonder if they will be impacted by this placement.

          • And how on earth did I forget Germany and its BundesAdler, descended from the ReichsAdler of the Holy Roman Empire, which in turn, also got it from Rome?

          • Replying to EA and UMM – you can read more in depth about Altair and Aquila at the very informative Constellations of Words website. It is an arcane treasure trove! Also Bernadette Brady’s Book of Fixed Stars is great, modern, and includes some history and mythology.

            As for locations linked to 1 Aquarius, Altair, and Pluto’s transit, it could be something to watch. Pluto alone is probably enough, but I think the fixed stars seem to amplify the effects of a planet’s transits. And maybe have their own stories to tell us?

            Worth noting, I think, is Ukraine’s Sun, 1 Aquarius.
            Uranus, 0 Aquarius for Albania
            And a raft of former Soviet Union countries such as Estonia and Latvia with Saturn at 1 Aquarius. This is the Saturn for the official end of Communism in Russia in 1991, when Saturn entered Aquarius.
            Clearly, this region and Russia itself are connected with US politics, and divisions around their ongoing support for Ukraine.

          • In many cultures from the ancient world onwards the eagle has symbolised wisdom, strength, nobility and kingship. Russia, since the middle ages has the Byzantine double-headed eagle as its emblem, signifying the Tsar’s dual sovereignty as head of both secular and religious worlds. But the symbol of the two headed eagle goes back even further into ancient Mesopotamia.

            Zeus’s eagle was Aetos a childhood companion of his, who Hera changed into an eagle due to her fear that Zeus may fall in love with the boy. In turn, Zeus made the eagle into his personal sacred symbol, Aetos Dios, his animal companion and messenger – a spirit animal if you like. From Alexander the Great, from the Persian Monarchs to the Roman emperors the eagle became their icon.

            Incidentally, both Alexander I of Russia as well as Ivan The Terrible have Pluto on Altair within 1 degree.

    • Note also that Mars ingresses into Leo on Tuesday November 5th, the day of the US election. (Venus that day is 21 Sagittarius right on Trump’s Moon, Jupiter is on his NN 20 Gemini and opposite his Moon)

      • There is a Pluto Mars opposition on 3 November 2024 as well with Pluto at 29 Capricorn and Mars at 29 Cancer. In fact the planets face off three times between November 2024 and April 2025. This is in part due to a lengthy Mars retrograde from December 2024 when the planet tracks back from Leo as far as 17 Cancer. Mars will be retrograde when it makes that second opposition exact on Trump’s Pluto Saturn midpoint. This is going to be a tense time and not just for the USA as the Pluto/Mars oppositions will be very close to the Pluto/Mercury opposition in the new UK Labour government chart.

        • Just to add that Mars enters Leo on 4 November 2024 just before the US election day, turns retrograde on 6 December 2024 at 6 Leo and then ingresses back into Cancer on 6 January 2025.

        • Thanks Hugh, that is an interesting detail about the Mars/Pluto opposition 29 Cancer/Capricorn. That gets picked up again in July 2028 when there’s a total solar eclipse at 29 Cancer on the 22nd. That will coincide with the next presidential campaign and the run up to the next presidential election.

          • “That will coincide with the next presidential campaign and the run up to the next presidential election.”

            I think the whole world will echo the sentiments of Brenda from Bristol. Not sure of Americans know her, but she’s worth getting to know, even if just as a meme.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3PKE8uTSp8

          • Hugh and VF – if you look at the chart for the first Presidential inauguration, April 30th 1789, there’s Uranus at 1 Leo. The UK’s legal or leadership Jupiter is also 1 Leo, part of the yod with Pluto and Uranus. Quite a few patterns seem be emerging with the Leo/Aquarius axis and Pluto. Mars Rx in Leo opposes Pluto in Aquarius at the end of December, beginning of January 2025. On January 1st, the Moon enters Aquarius too. The Nodes will have reached ‘world point’ degree 0 Aries by then, perhaps adding to the Aquarian idea of groups and associations of people? On 11th January they enter Pisces.

          • Thanks for that info, Jane. Lots of links to be studying. Just a bit random, but it occurred to me that Meghan Markle has her NN 1 Leo, so currently undergoing a SN/Pluto transit.

          • Well, yes. Forgive me for derailing but all is not good in the state of Montecito. They were booed at the Pat Tillman award ceremony, then rudely left half way through after he’d accepted the award. He looks increasingly unhappy to me and he’s also now caught up in various lawsuits with the British press including The Sun with allegations that he deleted important messages/evidence. Also, I would say that possibly one of the worst times to start up a business would be when Pluto was on one’s SN in the speculative sign of Aquarius.

          • Interesting, and agree with you. California is beautiful, I have spent quite a lot of happy months there – both work and time off. But I found myself really missing Europe, not just the UK. Maybe this is happening to H? I missed family and friends, of course, but also the landscapes, ancient places, and the weather.

          • Whenever you return to Blighty, like you say it’s always a comfort. The landscape, the lush greenness of it, the ancient-ness of our landmarks and history. I love our beautiful island.

    • What is the current synastry between Trump and Putin and over election and 2025? In 2014, Trump publicly stated that Russia was going to “help us with something big.” Anyone remember that? My intuition is that Putin now feels that Trump won’t do his dirty work as effectively as he did before (maybe due to senility) and is having serious buyer’s remorse.

      • @ Aim.

        I think that Putin got whatever he wanted via the classified documents that Trump stole so Trump is no longer of any use to him.

    • Selfishly what can I expect? My spouse has his sun at 1 Aq in the 4th and my son has his moon at 1 Leo in the 7th. Moon meaning me, I gather. Maybe I should give him some space. Any info appreciated.

  9. The Lunar Eclipse of March 2024- at 5 Libra sat right on Crooks Venus. The upcoming Lunar Eclipse @ 26 Pisces will oppose his Sun. Eclipses can stir the cauldron of deep unexpressed emotions. Who knows what caused this young man to do such a thing as he did. Transiting Neptune bouncing off his Sun likely added to dissolving boundaries of right and wrong. When people are very bright, as he is claimed to have been- they often spend an enormous time in their head. His Mercury was recently squared by Jupiter- adding to this-overtime in the head. To much time in the head, with none in the heart- is never good. It is sad for our country that violence is EVERYWHERE. As a client of my said- ” How has it has come to this?”. I have felt like it is 9/11 all day. People on social media wishing he’d been a better shooter- I actually had someone say this to me. (remember when people cheered about 9/11?) It is the depth of disregard for life-that is so disturbing. But this is the USA now. This is normal now, and has been for a long time. You can get shot any place at any time. If he was born in the evening, he would have a later degree Cancer Moon-with Chiron square it- which is an old wound surfacing. Another indicator this was a deeply emotionally charged cycle he was in. As to Trump’s fist in the air- when someone tries to kill you- and they don’t succeed-and you have Mars on the Asc…it is a perfect impulsive reaction- “I AM ALIVE”! And a lot of people will relate to this! I am just praying for peace-all over the world.

    • This was a thoughtful and sensitive response. Thrre is tremendous anger in the world but I’m hoping it’s because the world is going through a rebirth and birth, although the end result is wonderful, the process is painful, violent and bloody.

      • can you detail what is so wonderful about the end result or is this the odd woowoo brand of ‘energies ascending’ hopium astro.

  10. Apparently he was very intelligent, but bullied mercilessly at school.
    That he donated $15 to a Blue Pac and then joined the Republicans reflects his mum being a Democrat and his father a Republican.
    I know he has done a terrible thing, but I feel deeply saddened for him. I suspect he thought he was sacrificing himself for the greater good, because thats a very idealistic chart.

      • I’ll reserve my sympathies for the people Crook shot and the man he killed.

        Corey Comperatore, 50, a retired fire chief, died while shielding his daughters from the fire.

    • 20-years-old is not an easy age for young men – even when they have stable backgrounds. Hormones are raging, you’re just out of the rigours and well-trodden environment of school; trying to navigate a whole new world. This kid’s chart is a mess – full of squares and inconjuncts. It’s heavily intellectualised with the Virgo, Aquarius and Saturn-Moon in Cancer.

      I’m noting his Uranus/Mars is spot on Trump’s descendant. And with his own Jupiter opposite that – Crooks’ probably projected all his anger onto Trump.

      • Inclined to agree. The first thought that went through my head was a disturbed, zero self-esteem young man looking for his five minutes of fame before suiciding. Trump was the nearest thing to celebrity within his reach. May be wrong but for what it is worth.

  11. He was very young to have a strong political ideology, and was an outcast at school, addicted to video games (stereotypical mass shooter) and was “disappointed” that they wouldn’t allow him to join the Gun Club at school, because at the time his shooting score wasn’t to their standards.

    Maybe his motive was as simple as John Hinckley’s, but instead of impressing Jodie Foster, thought he would show the Gun Club just how good he was, because if Trump hadn’t turned his head when he did, the bullet would have gone through his ear instead of nicking it.

    His birth time would show how critically important being accepted and belonging were to him. Is anyone here adept at rectifying a birth chart?

  12. Onto market stability, he was clearly not that influential. Someone want to assess the markets against the event astrologics?

    “US stock futures barely budged after an assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump on Saturday, signaling calm in the markets as Trump survived the incident. “

  13. Deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender.

    DARVO is a technique a person may use to shift responsibility for an abusive incident onto the survivor of the abuse. It may also help the person who perpetrated the abuse deflect some of the responsibility and blame onto the survivor.

  14. Fascinating as ever Marjorie. Thank you.

    Any thoughts on the FBI / secret service? I imagine many will be called to answer for the glaring lapses in surveillance and efficiency that were exposed in the failed assassination.

    The shooter had unimpeded access to a nearby rooftop. Members of the nearby crowd were shouting and pointing, also attempting to directly alert security to the suspicious rooftop activity of a man with a rifle. No drone spotted him as he positioned himself in such a visible spot.

    An astonishing six shots, were made before the hesitant sharp shooter intervened.

    Only three of the agents were tall enough to actually block shots.

    The one of the agents was fumbling with her sunglasses while clenching Trump. Her fellow colleague later had difficulty with her firearm, struggling to holster it. One agent ducked for cover rather than surrounding her charge as the others had been trained to do.

    All the agents left his head exposed after he rose.

    This was certainly not their best effort, that’s for sure.

    • For informationsl background, the Secret Service and local police were in charge of security. The FBI has no responsibility for presidential security but is the lead agency in the investigation.

      The Secret Service has been seriously troubled for over 10 years and was heavily criticized for lax security and behavioral issues, especially drunkenness and misbehavior while on duty, under Obama and later for.agents becoming too close to and supportive of Trump. One senior agent became a political operative for him, a breach of protocol. The last director was fired. Many agents became effectively an extension of Trump’s campaign. When Biden came in he cleaned out the Trump loyalists from the White House presidential detail whose previously nonpartisan character was tainted under Trump.

      I heard a reporter on NPR speculate that the Trump campaign may have requested less stringent security at the rally to allow him to connect more closely with “his people,” as he did at the Capital on January 6th.

      • Hi Nicole. This is all so Neptunian. Someone on Atrios wrote:
        At over 3,000ft/second, an AR round would explode 2-paned glass panel, shredding TFG’s face, not just bloody one ear.

        Am I correct that it’s been established that the teleprompter was the target, not Trump?
        The man in the green shirt saying that law enforcement was told about the shooter and didn’t do anything for 4-5 minutes. Neptune? Mercury?

        Early Sunday AM, I awoke with a jolt and heard two words: Ohio ballots.

        Nicole —-Has that been sorted? There was something about rules/deadlines.
        Thanks.

        • Yes, Ohio passed corrective legislation, as did Alabama. Current plans call for an early, pre-convention roll call vote on, I believe, August 6, to nominate the president/VP candidates.

      • If what you say is true (aside from the wild speculation heard on the NPR), the most recent partisan purge of the SS could have played a major part in the shocking and deadly failure in security.

        Additionally, the SS director (Biden appointment, Kimberly A. Cheatle) has stated goals of achieving 30% female recruits.

        If those inept agents on the podium gained their places by quota rather than merit, it could explain this appalling lapse.

        One agent clearly cowered behind the protective scrum and was visibly panicked. I doubt she was the top of her class.

        In April an agent, Michelle Herczeg, recently had a breakdown. She had to be restrained and disarmed by her colleagues following an assault to her superior. Later relieved of duty.

        Another agent lost her position after stating on social media that she wouldn’t take a bullet for Trump.

        Yikes.

        • @PC, it wasn’t a partisan purge, it was a competence/behavior purge.

          As I recall under Obama there were issues of anti-Black racism, leaving Obama and his family more at risk. And then there were the well-documented reports of SS agents partying while on advance trips in South America, leading to several agents being sent home for excessive public drunkenness and cavorting with prostitutes.

          From a total outsider’s perspective, I think the agency suffers from an institutional “good old boy” problem and has long needed an overhaul, which this incident may finally produce. They probably need to bring in an outsider rather than the usual promote-from-within practice, so typical of law enforcement, to get rid of the deadwood and change the culture.

  15. well…………..
    his father signs off on a jobless mentally disturbed child’s purchase of a firearm.
    now, his house(and his car?) is full of bombs!
    He says to the press”i dont have any idea what’s going on.”
    Only in America

  16. who cares if this terrible event helps the Republicans or Trump .This world at present seems completely
    narcissistic , by making everything political it is completely lacking and devoid of any compassion empathy and
    humanity

    • I agree Jackie. The atmosphere is poisonous to all of us. Makes we wonder about Neptune clinging on to that last degree of Pisces and the upcoming Sat/Nep conjunction in Aries which feels like a massive reality check of some sort.

  17. Violence and politics met, yet again, in this somewhat shocking event. And there’s snaky Medusa/Algol plus Uranus and Mars 26 Taurus, making their presence very visible. I noticed that the South Node is 28 Taurus for the first Presidential Inauguration of 1789 – a question could be “what’s the karma/history?”.

    Also noticed Medusa and Neptune’s mythic offspring, winged horse Pegasus, is involved at the moment, via fixed star Scheat. Marjorie writes:

    “Apart from transiting Neptune hard aspects to two of his Mercury midpoints now till early October there is not much else showing in his chart – they will affect his concentration and perhaps give rise to more evasiveness than usual.”

    Neptune is currently aligned with Scheat, 29 Pisces, in the constellation Pegasus. A complicated star, it can give creativity and intellect, plus an ability to “fly” over difficulties. But as Pegasus soars upwards, his over-confident rider falls to earth in the myths. So Scheat is also associated with plane crashes, accidents at sea, murder, and extreme misfortune. Currently, this Neptune/Scheat blend is on the transiting Saturn/Nodes midpoint, emphasising alliances and ties of every kind, but also difficulties, disappointments and restrictions with others.
    This theme may also apply to the US descendant in the chart posted here, it is 28 Pisces. Welcome to the house of open enemies?

    Pegasus/Scheat is further linked to his mythical ‘parents’, Algol/Medusa and Neptune, through the transiting Uranus/Pluto and Mars/Pluto midpoint, which is 28 Pisces. That’s symbolising a lot of energy, anger, and outbursts or uprisings of various kinds. Pluto brings in secret security services, spies, and subversion I think. Pluto/Mars is dark and deep, and could have military undertones. Neptune brings confusion, delusion, and asks what is real?
    The USA Civil War chart, 12 April, 1861, has 27 Pisces ascendant, and Neptune 29 Pisces, which could underline the sensitivity of late Pisces for the USA in general. Civil war need not be a literal event. Perhaps that Neptune return reminder, allied with Scheat and the midpoints, is working itself out through divisions, illusions, and sporadic eruptions of anger or violence – such as we’re seeing now?

  18. Interesting that Thomas Crooks has Mars conjunct Uranus in his natal chart and carried out his attempted assassination during transiting Mars conjunct Uranus.

  19. People are running conspiracy theories but bear in mind that this was in rural Pennsylvania where folks just aren’t exposed to regular violence, so security lapses with local law enforcement aren’t unheard of. Small towns are generally slow and calm. Their law enforcement agencies aren’t highly trained and highly seasoned. I can see how the earliest of alerts were sort of missed.

    Having said that, I suspect Crooks was gay or trans and yes, triggered by Project 2025 being pumped into social media feeds non stop.

    • Brigitte: I was born & raised not far from Butler. It is/was a smallish quiet farm town, scenic in many ways. Very slow in the summertime. Your statements are aligned to the tempo of the town.

      I was reading the early news ‘casts and noted glaring issues: why was the shooter not caught earlier, how was he shot, why was he “neutralized, why no police drones, etc etc.

      The pic of Drompf doing his fist-pumping is now available on Tee shirts. How macabre is that?

    • Getting the word out about Project 2025 is of the utmost importance and so I wonder how best to do it so as not to trigger the human beings that it targets and seeks to harm.

  20. Trump security was warned about gunman four minutes before shooting, witness claims

    Donald Trump’s security was warned about a gunman on a roof “three or four minutes” before shots were fired at the former president’s rally, an eyewitness claims.

    The man, who was outside the grounds of the event, said he and his friends frantically drew the attention of the police when they noticed a person crawling onto a rooftop with a rifle while Trump was onstage in Pennsylvania.

    He claimed that minutes later, the gunman was still in position and managed to fire five times before the secret service “blew his head off”.

    The account will raise questions about how security lapses at the rally, where Trump – who is expected to be formally named the Republican candidate for president on Wednesday – was pictured with blood streaming from his ear.

    This is from The Telegraph of all papers.

    Can I add the link or will doing so get my post caught up in moderation?

    • I was listening to BBC radio while they were interviewing witnesses and members of the crowd in the aftermath last night. Someone in the crowd shouted at the BBC guy to ‘show some respect’ and seemed to want to silence the reporter. One man was rather graphic in his account of how the ‘shooter’s head was blown right off by SS.’ So there was Algol’s influence again, the demon star of Perseus. The reporter then apologised profusely to listeners for the gory nature of the man’s account, the parental, nannyish Beeb contrasting somewhat ridiculously with the grim reality and raw chaos of the situation.

    • So strange. And when secret service got to Trump, it was like a group hug. Normally each officer faces outward to protect the person. Sort of like a ring.

  21. Composite mid-point chart for Trump and Crooks(providing dob is correct) has the composite Sun/Mercury conjunct at 10 Leo. The composite Pluto is in Libra square Saturn in Cancer. The composite Uranus is in Aries. There is lots of Cardinal energy. The composite Mars is at 28 Taurus opposing a composite Chiron at 28 Scorpio. The latter was doubtless triggered by the transiting Mars/Uranus/Algol conjunction. The composite Uranus in Aries and the composite Chiron in Scorpio have overtones of Mars and blood.

  22. This Mars-Uranus-Algol passage is really nasty. I’m wondering, though, whether the effects of the events that have taken place will be what is considered the “likeliest” outcome.

    For instance, I’m reading many comments on how the assassination attempt will benefit Trump and Republicans in general. This is my instinct, too. However, nobody seems to be thinking about the effects the event has on Trump. Even, or especially since, he is a narcissist, this must ultimately leave him shaken, even if his shock reaction made him look strong. To my knowledge, he hasn’t, for instance, picked his VP yet. I feel that with these happenings, he is even less likely to act strategically, when the pick will seem more important now than ever.

    • Other than Trump using it to create yet another photo-op, which was both gutsy and extraordinarily foolish with the breach in security exposed and the resulting chaos, moments like these as memories in the public consciousness in America are notoriously short-lived.

      The main piece is that Trump lived and wasn’t disfigured. Had worse happened, the long term ramifications and calculus might be different. I’m not even certain this has an impact on the RNC this week. It was already going to be a coronation-love fest formality for him.

      I would guess that few people’ are even thinking about this particular incident when they go to the polls come early November. There’s still three and a half months left on the clock after all.

    • Solaia, discussion and backlash against Project 2025 had picked last week.

      I believe this so-called assassination attempt was to change the narrative leading into the Republican National Committee.

      Trump is denying that he has any knowledge or connection to Project 2025 yet

      Of the 38 people involved in the writing and editing of Project 2025, 31 of them were nominated to positions in Trump’s administration or transition team – meaning 81% of the document’s creators held formal roles in Trump’s presidency.

      …… including John McEntee, who was Trump’s director of White House personnel, Stephen Miller, a senior adviser in his first administration, Ben Carson, the housing and urban development secretary in his cabinet, and Ken Cuccinelli, a former deputy secretary of homeland security – as among the project’s leading architects.

      And how exactly don’t you know that Project 2025 director Paul Dans served as your chief of staff at the Office of Personnel Management, and associate director Spencer Chretien served as your special assistant and associate director of presidential personnel

    • My gut feeling is that this will make Trump even more deranged, more focused on retribution (which he’ll talk about even more) and less appealing to independent/swing voters. The “retribution list” has already leaked and it’s a doozy. It contains the names of most prominent Democrats and elected officials as well as Republicans deemed disloyal to Trump, including, interestingly, Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner.

      Do Americans really want Trump’s opponents, including former presidents and their wives, rounded up for “treason” to him and thrown in prison? I think that’s a bridge too far.

      • Jared is on it? Oh my!! I think April’s eclipse is currently making a hit to his Cap sun. Maybe that means that Ivanka won’t be the VP pick. Is there any relevant Astro for Ivanka? Also rumor that Lara Trump will be the VP pick. I think Marjorie wrote that she is in a good period from now until after the election. But I agree that the retribution list will upset a lot or voters. I think most people want calm and stability and not chaos and mayhem.

      • Where did it leak? Is there a time for when it was leaked? Maybe an Astro chart can be generated and that could shed some light on it.

        • I found it on Twitter (I refuse to call it “X.”)

          The list is pinned to the top of the feed of @igorsushko and reposted elsewhere. A commenter on Political Wire (politicalwire.com), one of my favorite, reliable political resources, posted it. Highly recommend it. I’m a long-time subscriber but there’s a free version.

    • A few centimeters over and he would’ve been taken.
      It’s enough to raise existential questioning in even the hardest of narcissists.
      I am sure, long term, behind the scenes – at least – there will be other after effects, as Marjorie hints at.

    • Agreed.I believe It will leave him shaken especially because of “his fifth avenue “statement but since he is such an opportunist I also think he will try to insinuate blame and its all Biden’s fault which is already going on, but apart from his supporters that may well back fire.

    • Solaia: either Trump is canvassing for evangelical voters…or else he has shockingly internalized the incident.

      ““It was God alone who prevented the unthinkable from happening,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post in the immediate aftermath of the shooting. “We will FEAR NOT, but instead remain resilient in our Faith and Defiant in the face of Wickedness.” ”

      So, what is the face of Wickedness?

      You posted: “However, nobody seems to be thinking about the effects the event has on Trump. Even, or especially since, he is a narcissist, this must ultimately leave him shaken, even if his shock reaction made him look strong.”

      Not necessarily astrological but the shock of being shot at…has this level of unintended consequence.

  23. @Sandra Jones, it seems Crooks was wearing a pro-gun YT channel t-shirt. This is one thing older and foreign commentators often seem to miss. Many American teens, while generally speaking “Liberal”, may actually be gun enthusiasts, and this will be a gateway to overall conservative material and even conspiracy sphere.

  24. Do sane individuals commit these multiple killings? It’s hard to believe that they do … but America puts weapons within the reach of almost everybody and three States have now approved the distribution of ammunition via slot machines. The killer apparently was a registered Republic- Neptune confusion reigns?

  25. “This is the start of a three year run of the two key squares in the USA chart colliding. The Solar Arc Sun square SA Saturn crashes into the USA Mars square Neptune. Usually when this happens it is a phase of rolling crises. The last time was between 1935 and 1939.”

    The 1935-39 period was also when SCOTUS’s rulings seriously hampered FDR’s New Deal and there was serious talk of packing the court with more liberal-leaning justices. Then one of the justices switching sides and voting more liberally is said to have been “the switch in time that saved nine” (search that phrase on Wikipedia).

    I wonder if that episode (of talk of stuffing the SCOTUS bench and that dying down because of a change of heart by some justices) will repeat itself again too.

    Also, at the time, FDR didn’t get along particularly well with his more conservative then-VP, John Nance Garner, who is reputed to have said that the vice presidency as being “not worth a bucket of warm piss”.

    • If I’m not mistaken there’s a yod in his chart pointing at Neptune in Aqua with inconjuncts to Saturn in Cancer and Mercury in Virgo – all quite tight.

      Also a possible second yod going to the Saturn in Cancer with the Pluto in Sag sextiling the Neptune in Aqua at 7degs.

      And therefore the Pluto in Sag is square the Mercury in Virgo.

      Virgo sun at 27-28deg will have been taking the transit from Neptune the past couple of years.

      His chart looks messy and tense

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