Donald Trump is the unquestioned winner of the election with Jupiter crossing his 10th house natal Uranus and transiting Uranus conjunct his Midheaven pushing him across the line. His success comes despite a raft of imponderables ahead. His Solar Arc Neptune is conjunct his South Node exactly now, then conjunct his Moon in 2025 and opposition his Sun in 2026. And tr Neptune will square two of his Mercury midpoints throughout 2025. So word salads are likely to turn into word soup. Neptune does not enhance clarity of thought or speech, tends to undercut energy and motivation and can increase addictions and delusions.
Not that the Inauguration chart looks anything but control-freaky and dictatorial with Sun Pluto in the 10th opposition Mars in the 4th – the latter hinting at a mutinous electorate. Though Neptune in the 11th does suggest a lack of vision for the future. A defiant (lawless/reckless) Uranus in the 1st points to significant changes being implemented that break with convention or the past.
If his birth time is accurate then his Solar Arc Pluto is moving to conjunct his Sun – which can indicate a power play but as often ends with blocked progress.
Looking at his relationship charts:
With the Federal Reserve which is entering a troubled phase in 2025 and on with tr Neptune Saturn square its Saturn Pluto plus plus – DT is producing a sinking feeling with tr Neptune conjunct the composite Sun, with confusion and then worse by 2026. So his fiscal and economic policies won’t bring peace of mind to the money wonks.
With NATO there are some tremors but not as much as you might expect from his rabble rousing beforehand.
Ukraine’s Zelensky he really dislikes and there will be tensions and an agenda shift through 2025 and more so in 2026.
With Putin, assuming his 1952 birth date is sound, there looks to be a confidence surge in 2025/26 which could lead to overconfident actions with tr Pluto opposition the composite Jupiter.
With Benjamin Netanyahu, which is an argumentative, competitive relationship at best, there will be jolts and jangles into early 2025.
J.D. Vance, 2 August 1984 8.11 am Middletown, Ohio, like Trump has tr Jupiter and tr Uranus moving across his 10th house of career. His relationship chart with Trump shows enthusiasm/success at the moment with tr Uranus opposition the composite Jupiter; and a few downbeat moments through January/February 2025 but nothing startling. Though their composite Mars is catching the March Aries Solar Eclipse in opposition to arguments are likely.
Trump’s relationship chart with the USA is upbeat in spring 2025 but hitting disappointments and erupting tensions in 2026/27.
The USA chart, 4 July 1776 11 am Philadelphia, having moved through its history-changing moment of a Pluto Return is poised on that crucial moment of either facing up to an erosion of its super-power status or of attempting a reboot. There are risks and setbacks from SA Saturn conjunct the Mars now and square the US Neptune in 2025 bringing great uncertainty. There will be a resurgence of morale and a confident (over confident) push in 2026 when the SA Pluto squares the US Jupiter.
But I would pin point tr Pluto opposition the US North Node in Leo in 2027/28 as being the critical turning point. 9/11 happened when tr Neptune was exactly opposition the US leadership Leo North Node which dented US pride – and this may be the point where the future trajectory is decided.
Relations between the USA and Russia 1991 don’t look as upbeat through 2025 as expected from the Trump Putin bro-romance. Nor do the USA/Israel relationships look anything but disappointing.
This only a fast canter through the charts and more will no doubt follow follow. Trump’s relationship with General Randy George, Army Chief of Staff, if it is relevant, is fraught in the extreme in 2025.
Marjorie,
I do appreciate you taking the time to study all of this. I know you’re doing your best to provide us with the most accurate interpretation possible based on the astrology.
However, I must ask: having gone through all of this information, does it really appear that we (the United States) is headed for a far-right totalitarian dictatorship for many years or decades to come?
I know this is probably a very difficult (perhaps, almost impossible) question to ask, but I was just wondering if the astrology offered any clues of any silver linings or rays of light in, what feels at the moment, a hopeless situation.
I don’t mean to sound overly dramatic, but my Americans like myself desperately wanted to believe common sense and reason would prevail. I and many others always knew it was a possibility Trump could win reelection, but we choose to put a lot of faith in the American electorate to make the right choice.
However, things took an even more shocking turn this election than the 2016 election. Not only did Trump win the Electoral College, he also won the popular vote (which has never happened before). Trump received 45% of the Hispanic/Latina/Latino vote, made significant gains with the Arab American community, and upped his margins with African American male voters. In other words, all of these felt surreal.
I would like to think we’re in for just another 4 years of political challenges but that we’ll overcome by 2028. Although, I know the astrology doesn’t care what I hope for.
Anyway, I’m still oscillating between a state of shock and despair over all of this. I guess I really misjudged the new “era” we’re entering. Pluto in Aquarius appears to be manifesting in a way that amplified the darker side of human nature rather than humanity.
NY POST:The young New Yorker also said Trump is better equipped to handle the migrant crisis plaguing the city.
“Trump said he’s going to send them back. I want him to send them back, especially the ones who are hurting people,” he said.
“I want New York to go back to what it was before they started busing migrants here. We had problems, but we don’t need them to add to it.”
Oh the irony that NYC is the location of the Statue of Liberty
The New Colossus
-Emma Lazarus
–
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”[12]
My city, Los Angeles is home to people from all over the world. I love that!
Having said “Then it winds up looking like Harris gets inaugurated, not Trump”, here’s another thought: it could be somebody else, not Trump or Harris. Could Vance be inaugurated right off the top? How would that work? Anyway, it doesn’t feel quite over yet as to the actual (legal) inauguration….but perhaps it’s only paranoid me.
Having studied and re-studied Trump’s chart for more than a decade, it continues to surprise. It works incredibly well and fits hand in glove with the US chart. It was always going to be a wierd election. To me, it looked like Trump would rise again in 2024, despite all things to the contrary, right up to the election. Then it winds up looking like Harris gets inaugurated, not Trump. How could that be? No doubt, Trump’s chart does not look too good by January 20th, relative to Harris’s. I’ve tried all sorts of times for the US chart (uncertain as it is), but mostly use the Scorpio rising one as it seems to work reliably. With the election overwhelmingly over now, short of uncovering mass dishonesty, which is impossible, I cannot imagine what could explain how Harris could still win. January 20th looks stronger for Harris. On November 15/16, Pluto at 29 Capricorn 56′ is inconjunct Trump’s ascendant in Leo. Not a great aspect, butt then on Christmas day, Uranus retrograde at Algol is sextile Trump’s natal Saturn at 23 Cancer 49′, having gone back into the US 9th house of the Supreme Court. ??? No idea. So, we wait for the final outcome.
Whoever was going to win this time would have erroded the trust of the electorate because the economy is going down, AI is behind the corner and russian propaganda seems to be working wonders. Unpopular measures would have been required and if you do people good by force they are going to resent it. At least Trump and his apes are going to hit the wall and hit it hard. Taking us all with them.
As an Aqua born in an eastern EU country – Romania – during the time the anti-abortion law was in force, I felt disheartened by the result of the elections. It’s appaling for me that people who lived in democracy all their lives are willing to breed a generation of children that have to face the hatred of their mothers, fathers and all family as I did, being forced to hate their families back as a means of survival. And the whole society. And everything around them. Not to mention the Pluto in Aqua generation seems to be disconnected with their feelings, grim, favoring intellect rather than emotions. I only regret Elon and his incels won’t live long enough to feel the effects of their deeds on their own skins.
As for my country, it seems I have to leave all behind and start anew. Romania belongs to the group of eastern territory claimed by russians in 2021 and again this autumn to be a bumper state as it already was for the last 40 years before the 90s. No peace, no future, no prosperity for us poles, bulgarians, czechs, romanians, moldavians, hungarians. We were forever thrown to the wolves or should I say bears for the balance in europe to be maintained.
Fine, start anew, but what? AI is replacing fast most of the work I do as a software programmer. Sam Altman resigned from OpenAI declaring that the change brought by the AI is difficult to mitigate both as an individual and as a society. If AI replaces all the jobs, the capitalists won’t have any more consumers. The slaves won’t have any money to spend on their exquisite robots to clean the houses. Basic income? As greedy as the people are, it won’t be enough to cover even the basic necesitites. Ceausescu, our dictator, fed us ‘scientifically’, rationed food. Scarce at least. He was an aquarius, btw. If the commies in our country had something in common, it was the Air signs prevalence in their charts. Gosh, people never learn. At least we didn’t have guns. Back then, in my childhood, people were stomping each other for a piece of bread.
White Christian Nationalism. The Payment from Trump will come due. Project 2025 said today they are getting ready with the policies to implement. As far as Neptune? Theocracy.
I studied the USA’s chart (12:15 pm July 4th 1776) and figured out that when Mars went into Leo- it would favor a patriarchal candidate. The USA SA Moon is in Scorpio now. Will be squared by T. Pluto this month. A changing attitude has prevailed among voters. It was clear that come spring 2025 as T. Neptune squares USA Venus – the issues around female /money/ values would be foggy. (I expect the abortion issue to go to the states). T. Saturn will move to square USA Venus in May. Tax cuts. All of this lead me to believe that Trump would win. I didn’t expect the Tsunami. I certainly hope the Dems would think to look within – as to why they lost the House, Senate, White House and popular vote. But no. I have no doubt that plenty of traditional Dems just jumped to the other side- sick of wars, censorship, and not an affordable state of living. Election day the moon was in conservative Capricorn. Trump gathered around him some wonderful people- who are very smart. Elon, (who HELPED North Carolina more than the government) Tulsi Gabbard who is sensible, (and would make a great president), Kennedy who knows about the environment, and also is a strong pull for many voters. And Joe Rogan who gave his show a voice for Trump and Vance. Open to Harris- but Harris declined (and she reached out to him-when she heard Trump was going on). No going on was a mistake – she could of reached male voters. Rogan is fair, smart as hell, curious, and a decent person. He was a Sanders supporter- at one time. The Dems need to ask themselves why so many have jumped ship. I doubt they will. Trump isn’t a Nazi and neither are the people who voted for him. I am hopeful that the USA will begin to prosper in 2026. I didn’t support Trump, (Voted for Stein- the GREEN Party) but I understand those who did. Will the Dems attempt to learn why they lost so badly? I doubt it. I was a lifelong Dem until this year. And I am in my 60’s. I am tired of their hypocrisy. So get ready for 8 yrs of Republicans. (Tulsi could run in 2028).
Trump’s Saturn Pluto midpoint is at 1 Leo and will be impacted by the Pluto/Mars opposition at that degree on 3rd January 2025. Interestingly if you draw up a relationship composite midpoint chart for UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer and Donald Trump it has both Sun and Mars at 1 Leo as well.
Marjorie please consider doing a chart of Biden and Harris for end of November, first of December.
Harris can still become president. Biden was shoved out before and it can happen again. Throw in some legal Judo and Trump could be stymied by the system.
Harris could write executive orders that would create a quagmire for Trump. Still time before the Inauguration for political skulduggery.
“There is many a slip, between cup and lip.” Shakespeare
Hm there really would be blood on the streets if they tried to overturn this kind of majority. Though I confess I am intrigued to see what transpires with Harris’s Jupiter midpoint being twanged later this month into December. Biden from memory is sinking deeper into Neptunian mists.
Kudos to Marjorie. “She looks like a sure bet to lose” in her post about Harris back in July. So many astrologers thought she would win. The celebrity charts are interesting and informative, but your mundane analysis has always been of the greatest interest to me.
Marjorie, any updates on the main people behind Project 2025? I remember you said they looked somewhat downbeat next year or so, which is interesting since they seem to have got what they wanted.
She wrote ….catastrophic phase of setbacks and disappointments come 2026/27 with tr Neptune Saturn opposition their Pluto and square Mars, at the same time as SA Pluto squares the Sun. Nothing that looks like progress with their project……
so that would be approaching the midterm elections
I don’t know if I understood well what I just heard on the radio, but it seems as a convicted fellon, Trump can’t go to the UK and Canada.
Will probably have diplomatic immunity?
I was wondering if there was something to overwrite the ban.
I believe he’s not officially a convicted felon until he’s been sentenced. His current sentencing date is 26 November but legal experts expect it to be delayed now. There’s speculation that the judge could delay sentencing until 2029 when he’s out of office again.
Trump’s inauguration biwheel, looks scary. Trans Uranus conj the MH;
trans Mars conjuncts natal Saturn; trans Pluto conjuncts his 6th cusp
of health; trans d’Arrest, heart event, aspects Merc at 8 Cancer.
9 Cancer is a common area for heart disease. Trans Mars aspects
natal d’Arrest.
The Solar Eclipse at 9Aries forms a paran with his natal Merc at 9Cn.
Hopefully the election strain of travel and the numerous court cases
will pass with no adverse effects.
https://ibb.co/Jp1CDBS
Also significant — California will pass the tougher-on-crime Proposition 36, and by 70% of the vote. This is very significant since it will undo much of Proposition 47 supported by Kamala Harris in 2014. Plus LA voters turned against George Gascon. Both these votes suggest a big change. Psychedelic drug legalization was defeated by 57% in Massachusetts. Pro-drug policies are no longer winning. CA voted for Harris but rejected some of Harris’ and Newsom’s signature policies.
So, Kamala is not a swamp?
Isn’t impersonating someone else on the internet considered bad form, or are you actually Astrologer Jessica Adams? lol
Aren’t all US presidents and vice presidents ‘swampy’ in terms of communication? most modern politicians for that matter are masters of word salad, they show that unclear communication isn’t relegated to an iffy neptune mercury contact or gemini stellium, you don’t find truth tellers in politics any more.
I can’t support him personally, but this is what the people want apparently.
Yes, I remember Marjorie was never keen on Harris winning this time round. I will re-read that because it was good, *brave* predictive work there Ms. Orr!
This is an astrology website, not a broadsheet op-ed column.
OK, JB. Thanks?
This is a mundane post about a current event.
Archie Dunlop on YT (Talking Astrology With Archie) was also correct about Harris, months ago.
Posting questions without the necessary transits or placements but does Trump even want to be president anymore? Did he just want to win to prove a point and head back to the links?
Will he be replaced by malleable Vance after inaugeration? Is Trump just the decoy being propped up by the real power brokers? (No, I do not believe in the Deep State, but I do believe in profiteering opportunists.)
He’s a trojan (term of your choice) to get various interests inside and out of the US over the line, yes.
Pluto into the 6th now will increase those health issues.
Scary!! I’ve had Pluto in my 6th house since 2013……. until 2030. I’m still alive and kicking
Glad to hear you’re in rude health.
‘Though Neptune in the 11th does suggest a lack of vision for the future’
In a natal chart this position tends to show an ability to tap into the zeitgeist and connect with a group, so unless event charts are different wouldn’t it be a positive for Trump? I see it’s in square to Neptune, which is deception though.
Is this an inauguration chart or the announcement of the win chart because it’s not inauguration yet?
I put up the Inauguration chart for 20 January 2025.
Ah thanks – I did not realise they always do it at the same time.
I’m translating from one portal what Trump is promising:
“More tariffs: 10% tax on all imports, 200% on some cars, specifically directed against China.
Mass deportations: record number of deportations, asylum restrictions, ban on citizenship by territory.
The end of green politics: increasing fossil fuels, withdrawing from the Paris Agreement, repealing Biden’s electric vehicle regulations.
Abolishing Diversity Programs: Eliminating Diversity Programs at Universities, Returning to the “American Tradition.”
No Federal Ban on Abortion: Delegating Abortion to States, Rape Exemptions, Incest, Maternal Health.
Ending wars: criticism of aid to Ukraine, agreement proposal, redefinition of NATO mission.
Enemy Investigations: Use of Federal Agencies to Interrogate Opponents, Possible Firing of State Attorneys.
Tax incentives: reduction of corporate tax to 15% for domestic manufacturers, abolition of tax on tips and overtime.
Less bureaucracy: Dismissing the “deep state,” establishing a commission with Elon Musk on government efficiency.”
Kudos to Marjorie for getting it right. But as she rightly notes, there are astrologers who believe Trump has a 17 degree Leo rising and that we should be using that chart. I don’t want to get into the weeds because I’m an amateur astrologer at best, so I’ll just post this link to an article on the topic from Kepler College’s website:
https://library.keplercollege.org/donald-trump-birthtime/
Thanks for this, Monica!
@El Aznar, I find this unreliable because of different house systems giving different results. I’ve seen Saturn, classic maleficent 6th/12th house close to Asc/Desc or in Solar Return 6th/12th produce scary results. But these require precise TOB.
Trump’s Sun/Mercury midpoint is on the USA Chart Venus. He does speak of love for his country. His Sun/Saturn midpoint on his Mercury. Which is near the USA Jupiter/Sun midpoint. He is very much for America. His Sun/Venus midpoint is in the USA Jupiter. Which coincides with his Jupiter crossing his mid-heaven giving him this astonishing win. The planets were certainly aligned for him last night. Whatever you think of him. He was meant to win. He is there for a reason. Whether good or bad it was his win for a reason.
Of course, he is just a vessel for something else.
Marjorie ahe predicted Kamala defeat “definitely” and all her fans were shocked but once again she’s proved right…she was right during India election results too..Her experience and devotion r unapralleled…
Liked humour above…word soup
Not to detract from Marjorie’s power and knowledge, and maybe I’m wrong, and she out it so nicely about how far the astrology can go with our knowledge of it so far, but it is as if I am having this impression that she pretty much thought Trump was finished and had no chance during all those court cases and troubles, and that that only recently change to being more wary and cautious.
@ Helen, please stop the pro-Trump propaganda.
Trump is a Russian asset and he has degraded not only the U.S. but its military and his own supporters.
He is a narcissist who has failed at every business he has started and he was a failure during his first four years in office downplaying COVID to Americans while sending COVID tests to Putin.
“His Solar Arc Neptune is conjunct his South Node exactly now, then conjunct his Moon in 2025 and opposition his Sun in 2026. And tr Neptune will square two of his Mercury midpoints throughout 2025. So word salads are likely to turn into word soup. Neptune does not enhance clarity of thought or speech, tends to undercut energy and motivation and can increase addictions and delusions.”
Trump likely has dementia, and at this point I’m starting to think of Alzheimer’s, since there is family history. I have a family member who was diagnosed with this Summer 2020, in the middle of pandemic, at relatively early stage. I had my suspicions 2-3 years prior to that, she started to struggle with finding words and were suffering of chronic insomnia. The disease seemed under control for 3 years after the diagnosis, but the progress since Summer 2023 has been scary. She is now struggling not only in completing daily chores, naming weekdays and things, but also accessing chore memories. The astrology: She is a Sun Aries, with Pisces Venus, Mercury, and Mars. Her Solar Arch Neptune is currently moving through these, and approaching Sun and MC – she is a midday baby, seems to run in the family, her children are daytime babies too.
“With NATO there are some tremors but not as much as you might expect from his rabble rousing beforehand.”
Many of his European NATO counterparts seem to have a realistic view on truly needing to start spending on defense. He also seems to be appointing numerous NATO hawks to his admin – Mike Pompeo, for instance. So, I would not be too worried of this, either.
“J.D. Vance, 2 August 1984 8.11 am Middletown, Ohio, like Trump has tr Jupiter and tr Uranus moving across his 10th house of career. His relationship chart with Trump shows enthusiasm/success at the moment with tr Uranus opposition the composite Jupiter; and a few downbeat moments through January/February 2025 but nothing startling. Though their composite Mars is catching the March Aries Solar Eclipse in opposition to arguments are likely.”
Vance is actually who I am worried about, with Trump’s declining health. He is obviously a seething boiler really poorly contained anger. And likelier than any VP in recent memory to ascend to power. It would actually be curious to see how his chart look on personal level as Trump’s decline continues. I don’t see him being a viable candidate in 2028 – he just lacks Trump’s charm (how questionable it might be…)
Yes, Trump has classic dementia stooping posture. Both my parents had/had dementia so I recognise the signs. Could this be connected to the Neptune transits?
@Virgoflake, this is how I read Marjorie’s interpretation of his Solar Arch. I am not an expert in it as an astro tool, but see the pattern elsewhere. I might look at my great aunt for a reference, too. She descended in her 80’s, way before they started doing MRI scans to suspected cases here. But she was classic Alzheimer sufferer, unfortunately with a mean and paranoid streak. My grandfather, her brother, seems to have had the vascular form. He was very bright well into his 80’s, then had three strokes, the last taking him at 87.
I was a young teenager and living with my grandparents when this happened. Likely why I’m so “tuned” into seeing the symptoms. DJT has had really painfully familiar moments that I can’t explain “just” with a 78-year-old person doing 4 campaign events a day.
Maybe also take a look at what happened with the ruler of the 6th house (health).
Thanks Solaia. My mother has Lewy Body, so suffers from paranoid delusions which is devastating, though her essence still shines through once you are able to console her that her thoughts aren’t real which isn’t always easy. Currently she has Chiron transit her 8th house. Neptune-wise, her solar arc Neptune is in her 4th as it crossed her IC at the same time she had to go into care and it (Solar Arc Neptune) currently squares her 6th house Pisces Sun/Venus.
@Virgoflake, so sorry to hear, from what I’ve learnt, Lewy’s is the worst. We had luck with my grandfather, he used to have a temper (never violent, just would make his point heard…), but became extremely
mild mannered and cheery after the second stroke. And my grandmother was the one person who the paranoid great aunt trusted and who could even talk her out of her fits.
Totally agree regarding Vance – which is why he was chosen, instead of a patriot with actual scruples like Pence.
My only astrological comment is that it could be argued that delusion applied to all Americans, on both sides of the aisle.
Otherwise this was to be expected (matching my initial fears when Biden dropped out), if only based on what is known about the American public from decades as an ‘outside’ observer. The Democrats might have won with somone else, but their fate was cast when Biden chose Harris 4 years ago. It’s not Harris’ fault, Americans still aren’t ready to elect a woman president, and Black no less, if they were willing to choose someone like Trump, and overwhelming so.
The most enlightening anecdote was from The Guardian, which reported that an 18-yr old voted all Democrat downballot, but Trump for president, supposedly ‘because of the economy’, and well, maybe he’s ok with abortion, despite all evidence to the contrary.
The fears aren’t just for the US – but the entire world’s trajectory. As many fellow Americans, I am now planning for exile, but I’m not even sure where it would really be safe. And let’s forget about fighting global warming, or the next pandemic… I only hope, Marjorie, that you are right regarding NATO, because Putin basically dictates what Trump does.
Unlike younger generations, my only personal consolation of sorts is that my time is more limited than theirs, but it would have been nice to leave it a better place for them. Instead, I’ve decided to stop “fighting the good fight”, because at this stage it’s pointless. They have won.
Power to women? But isn’t Aquarius kind of androgynous, so maybe power to the gay people, the queer, the unusual? Not really women… Also technocracy (techno – Uranus & Aquarius, -cracy – Pluto)…
I was trying to remember what Joni Patry said, and I just recall her mentioning something going one way and then on election day a big surprise or something like that…
@El Aznar, I read Pluto in Aquarius as a turning point in natality, World wide. Many countries have struggled with diminishing birthrate for a while. The US has the issue, too, but has guaranteed sufficient workforce through mass immigration. Imagine what rounding up illegal immigrants while young people simply refuses to procreate with the opposite sex will do to that… And yes, there is the glorious Pluto in Aquarius, Uranus in Gemini coming before we know, bringing AI and robotics and reducing need for human work, but imagine this being handled by the genius mind of Elon Musk.
So much of the signalling goes opposite ways: on the one hand you have people complaining of overpopulation and some job postings being filled with a ton of even overqualified candidates and on the other hand you have low birth rates… But then you have need for workers opposite AI making a whole ton of people redundant? How will it work? If you have a ton of non-working people, what will they live from? Universal income? For which, again, there are opposing views…
I can’t say I fully understood “Imagine what rounding up illegal immigrants while young people simply refuses to procreate with the opposite sex will do to that…” Could you just elaborate a bit? Thanks!
Thinking about the confusion (Neptune), hopefully it will end once Neptune leaves Pisces, which it rules and where it creates this dissolution of any firm facts and knowledge. Off-topic, weirdly, given Neptunes strength in many mathematicians’ charts, no big breathroughts in maths while it was in the sign of Fish? Or maybe I’m wrong?
Another opposing message is “Learn to code!” or “Everyone should (learn to) code!” versus Nvidia chief saying knowing coding in the future will be obsolete, given that AI will do it all… Now you figure out what will you do. Now you have all these lucrative jobs in IT, although in my view that is again very Neptunian, the glamour of money and good life, when you also have a ton of really not all that very well paid jobs in that sector, and then you also have these IT companies firing people or really reaching peak employment of developers and not needing that many of them anymore… So many oppositions.
El Aznar, glad to do so. In few words, the job market is going to two different ways:
There is scarcity traditional of “good” jobs, working one’s way up a corporate ladder. It’s been 10 or more years already that when someone in the middle management retires, companies won’t hire a replacement.
On the other hand, there are low pay, low added value jobs which aren’t worth being automated at the moment, but still contribute significantly to GDP. These jobs are typically manual, typically include very uncomfortable work environment and are typically left to those with no choice, such as immigrants without a legal protection.
It’s clear that some realignment will, eventually take place. There will be new middle class jobs, that previously would have been skilled labor. I see mechanics getting paid more than marketing managers (and rightly so). But while this disruption is already very much on the way, it may not be a good idea politically to enhance, rather than mitigate, the influence to the vast middle classes.
The genius, ketamine-damaged mind of Elon Musk? That terrifies me!
‘Though Neptune in the 11th does suggest a lack of vision for the future’
In a natal chart this position tends to show an ability to tap into the zeitgeist and connect with a group, so unless event charts are different wouldn’t it be a positive for Trump? I see it’s in square to Neptune, which is deception though.
Is this an inauguration chart or the announcement of the win chart because it’s not inauguration yet?
Musk knows the
price of everything and
the value of nothing.
For all of his enormous
wealth, he strikes me as
a charmless egomaniac.
There is far less to him,
than meets the eye.
As I’m sure you are aware, Marjorie, a number of well-known astrologers have been calling this election for Kamala Harris for quite some time. For some: no ifs, no buts. Pluto into Aquarius, bringing women to power – and more signposts were quoted! Another said that although they avoided calling election results, they were pretty certain Harris would become the first female US President, this week. The most ‘pessimistic’ Harris supporting astrologer, suggested a void of course moon might lead to an unresolved vote; which I understood to be a tie, with lots of legal debate and possibly unrest.
The result could not have been more different – Trump had a pretty easy victory! So do you think wishful thinking clouded their judgements or were they looking at the wrong astrological indicators? Either way, not very good for their credibility.
Majorie didn’t make a prediction, and if you look back at the comments in that post, some of us expressed doubts.
Kamala has Moon at 27 Aries. This was getting a square from Tr Pluto at 29 Cap.
Tr Pluto squaring your Moon is HORRIBLE. It’s genuinely malign.
When tr Pluto squared Biden’s Moon, he was forced to step down as candidate. When tr Pluto squared King Charles’ Moon, he got cancer. When tr Pluto squared Boris Johnson’s Moon, he resigned as Member of Parliament, ending his political career. When tr Pluto squared Sinead O’Connor’s Moon, she died.
When I experienced it, I could feel the life force draining, I struggled badly with ill health.
Squares and oppositions from tr Pluto to the Moon are dangerous, and people should be super-careful when it’s upon them.
Yes agreed. I had Pluto square my moon in Libra, it was a few years of time that everything I tried was ripped apart. Didn’t help that Neptune and Uranus also square from Capricorn. But, 35 years later Pluto will trine my moon. Can’t wait to see how that works. Pluto on my moon aged 18years bought first flat but, also married a wife beater.
The problem is most astrologers won’t/don’t read the actual chart but project what they want to happen. The same over Brexit. Most astrologers are left-leaning and liberal and of a certain age.
I’m also sceptical of the Pluto in Aquarius means women will lead/come to power discourse, as El Aznar says. Aquarius is a masculine sign.
It’s technological. It’s gender-bending and cold-hearted to the individual. It’s all fairness and equality for the people in an airy fairy way but not very good on individual rights. With Leo as the shadow of the age, that’s what is going to be difficult. One of the reasons that people are obsessed with celebrity.
At least Kemi and Trump are going to be interesting, flawed, individuals with convictions. They will be funnier than dull technocrats like Starmer and Harris.
Let’s face it, there are no good choices right now. Not one inspired politician in the west.
Aquarians I know are also startlingly devoid of any empathy or kindness, sometimes looking cruel, and I think can be dictatorial.
“… that’s what is going to be difficult. One of the reasons that people are obsessed with celebrity.”
Could you also explain what exactly do you mean here? Thanks!
Aquarius is a very detached uncaring non sexual sign but does seem to bring telephones, communications mechanical and of course the Internet from 1997 Uranus conjunct Jupiter. Mega Jupiter event, hard to realise we hardly had any phones then and certainly not like now where your whole life can be on your phone. Disconnected from humans, Uranus ruling Aquarius indeed.
It’s going to be poor for women I suspect, something to do with procreation and technology and removing the complex connection of a mother/child to making babies in test tubes. None of these tech nerds are known for their humanity or ability to ‘connect’ and now they are, through technology turning everyone else into their image.
I too have made comments to other people interested in astrology to stop the Aquarius hero worship, but none of them listen, these days I just assume anyone droning on about how fabulous the Age of Aquarius will be or any planet connection to Aquarius is just a sub par astrologer. It is a dictatorial, emotionless sign as El Aznar also said, the problem in astrological circles is so many have become obsessed with blaming all the ills of the world on Neptune and the age of Pisces they cannot envisage calamity of another flavour
Hi, The truth is that astrology is a flawed instrument for making election predictions. Sometimes it is clear, other times a mush of contradictions. The need for certainty – and making a definite prediction – pushes some astrologers into being overly definite.
It is all too easy to get it wrong especially if you have skin in the game and are invested in the result. Or your ego gets in the way and wants the glory of being right.
I spoke to another astrologer today and she said she took a more historical view. OK this has happened, what does it mean in terms of where we (especially Americans) are at and what comes next. Staying detached is not easy when the main players are unpleasant/corrupt but it is what astrology demands as a practice.
First impression of the article above: it’s as if the turmoil everywhere in the world just won’t end.
@El Aznar, these were my thought exactly this morning. I think many voters will have a cruel awakening later in 2025, though, if the recession Conservative pundits have been praying to happen will, indeed, come.
Do you know the approximate timing of the onset of the recession?
Gurmeet Singh predicts recession starting around 3/1 and running through August. —Vedic. He says very tough economic times ahead. I like him even though he was also incorrect about US election. He’s not deleting his prediction and keeping it up on his site which I admire.
And you know what else is interesting: it’s as if everyone is just an acting officer, a temporary head. Everything is just a flux towards something else entirely. I thought e.g. that David Cameron would rule for a whole lot. Look at how that ended up. But now it is difficult to imagine anyone right now having staying power beyond a few years.
You know who The Daily Mail seems to be spotlighting a lot? Lara Trump. So maybe in the next few days we could cover the Trump crew and their respective transits, progressions, and solar arcs.
Dear Majorie,
I’d like to know how Trump’s chart reads with General Mark Milley and General John F. Kelly, who both warned the US about electing Trump.
@Candy, I’ll give her credit here. She actually DID see heavy energy here. The campaign didn’t turn out to be a disaster the way people thought after seeing 2016. It ran apparently flawlessly, but this just tells how important “moods” and “vibes” are in politics.
Personally, my main tool used has always been Inauguration Chart, and 2025 Sun/Pluto oppose Mars was always something that alarmed me, but I thought of right wing terrorism.