Hindsight is a wonderful thing when mulling over the efficacy of predictive tools. But the past is not always a good indicator of a precise repeat when similar influences occur ahead.
Trump survived an assassination attempt on 13 July last year near Butler, Pennsylvania. Relocating his chart there pulls his 12th house Mars in Leo across his Ascendant into his 1st house pushing him further into the spotlight in a flamboyant way. Transiting Uranus exactly conjunct Algol conjunct tr Mars in Taurus were hovering around his midheaven and exactly square his Mars for a sudden, explosive event causing great insecurity and leading to a fiery reaction.
Trump’s Solar Return from June 2024 has a high-risk Pluto square Mars in the 7th and 11th. Set for Butler, Penn, it putls Pluto closer to the 8th square Mars which make sense of a dangerous event.
His Lunar Return which covers that event from Jun 21 2024 has Pluto on the Midheaven, which can be ominous, square Mars with Uranus in his 1st. The aftermath in his Lunar Return from 18 July 2024 has Uranus, Algol, Mars in the 8th as the enormity of what had happened began to sink in with Saturn and Neptune in his 6th house of health; and a trapped Pluto in his 4th.
Mars Pluto and Mars Uranus Algol would all point to a brush with danger.
Those influences repeat from late this April into May 2025 with tr Uranus back conjunct Algol at 26 Taurus which squares Trump’s Mars – and also rattles an unsettling number of other charts especially across the Middle East and elsewhere. On April 26th, as well, the trapped, scary, can-be-ruthless and overly-aggressive Mars in Leo opposition Pluto is back for the final time. Plus Neptune has for the first time dipped its toe into Aries.
Which also, just to be cheerful, coincides with the Solar Arc Uranus conjunct the 8th house Mars in the UK chart moving to exact to within a minute or so. Which could be financial/economic fallout to whatever is going on elsewhere as well as a more physically shocking experience.
The UK Solar Return from December 31 2024 for a year ahead does have Mars in the 7th house of partners/enemies opposition Pluto in the 1st, perhaps hinting at a front-seat participation in whatever is happening – plus a financially uncertain Saturn Neptune in the 2nd.
Solar Returns for the USA are trickier with no settled start time but on the Sibley chart, the July 2024 Solar Return has an explosively aggressive Mars Uranus Algol in the 7th house of neighbours; with a stubbornly extreme Pluto in the 3rd opposition Mercury. Which makes sense as Trump throws the old global order into disarray.
The USA July 2025 Solar Return has Mercury in the 7th opposition Pluto in the 1st as intense diplomatic discussions continue though lessening in aggression; with an unsettled electorate from Uranus in the 4th plus a financially uncertain Neptune Saturn in the 2nd and Mars in the 8th.
Bit of a hotch potch but Lunar Returns can be helpful. Country Solar Returns I don’t normally do but they seem to be reasonably illuminating.
The levels of extreme anxiety in the USA and to a lesser extent elsewhere may to a degree be amped up by the Mars opposition Pluto and Uranus Algol which have been running since last year – and will finish after late April 2025 for Mars Pluto and in July when tr Uranus moves into Gemini (though returning to Taurus for a few months later in the year). Late this coming April does look like a toxic hot spot.
I should also add that I am Virgo Mercury Rising as well, and I recognize some of J.D.’s behavior towards journalist from my past, especially from times I was significative stress. I probably shoul not have, for instance, tell my boss at the evaluation that I was the smartest person in that unit, however frustrated I was of my development proposals being blocked by him. But I completely see Vance telling Musk that he is the one with the Law degree when sufficiently pushed.
Re UK Solar return saturn neptune 2nd house , will it go bankrupt ?
No, despite what the American led socials are saying about the UK its no where near as bad as people are making out and free speech is alive and well. We certainly have more free speech in the UK than the USA does which is the irony in Musk and Vance’s ramblings.
“Bit of a hotch potch but Lunar Returns can be helpful. Country Solar Returns I don’t normally do but they seem to be reasonably illuminating.”
I think the personal ones work better, too, because the lack of exact TOBs makes the charts inexact. The fact countries tend to have several founding moments is also worth noticing. My country Finland is one of the very few countries that has a straight forward founding moment, but even then, Civil War and the end of WWI postponed the acceptance of Constitution by 18 months. There was a serious debate on whether to adapt monarchy or republic, which however was predetermined to end with republican side winning. Yet, not everything that has happened in our history can be explained by SRs. One issue I see is the over dramatization of influences shown on charts.
One great example is Finland 2009/10 chart. At the time, people were justly alarmed by Mercury/Pluto conjunction in early Capricorn hitting Finland’s natal Mercury/NN Capricorn oppose Pluto Cancer. We were still in the mids of Global financial crises and Greece’s troubles were reflecting to euro. These were dramatic times, but we ultimately came out of them relatively strong.
However, there were issues with traffic. Just days after the Independence Day, a water pipeline broke flooding the main underground station and destroying escalator circuits in Helsinki. The metro traffic was interrupted for months. Traffic chaos ensued, given there also were -30°C temperatures and several snowstorms. A couple of weeks later, a train derailed at the main railway station, hitting a Holiday Inn reception. Miraculously, there weren’t casualties.
Vance is projecting.
Sorry this should have posted under Calvin’s response
@Jennifer E, I’d rather say gaslighting. “We can’t say anything anymore” is also a battle cry of the European Far Right when they get sued for their racism.
I found Vance’s speech strangely reassuring though. It shows that his handlers, Christofascist tech bros, really don’t understand European politics. They likely thought they could easily “hungaryfy” all of Europe. They do not get how much stronger European Institutions are now than when Orbán took over, and they especially don’t get the level of independence of courts have in Civil Law countries. Even some liberal/leftist commentators seem confused, telling European institutions must act on disinformation, independence of courts etc., funding politics, mostly things that are already heavily legislated in Western Europe, but got the US to the constitutional crisis once gentlemanly agreements from 250 years ago were broken.
Astrology: JD Vance’s, with a 1st house Virgo Mercury rising, whole identity is being the smartest kid in the room. He has likely achieved this easily in the US for most of his life, due to the lack of true meritocracy. I think being married to an actual super smart, but possibly toxic person has amplified this. They would be talking about how stupid everybody else is. Now, he is being exposed to people who are not only smart but truly knowledgeable and competent. He is likely very lost. It definitely reflects in his 2025/26 Solar Return.