Piers Morgan – making a success of being offensive ++ wife Celia

52 thoughts on “Piers Morgan – making a success of being offensive ++ wife Celia”

1. Tara, Thanks for posting that.
   Birth dates are the holy grail and the curse of astrology. They can be suspect for many reasons – records for one thing are kept by humans and wiki is iffy. Even registered birth certificates regarded as AA aren’t absolutely reliable since they depend on father’s memory six days later. In the Queen Mother’s case six weeks later so her actual day of birth was never definite.
   However the days of actresses being able to trim a few years off for professional reasons are long gone. The internet is awash with old school friends/enemies who would leap into print at the blink of an eye if a celeb tried to pull a biographical fast one. Plus Morgan has written at least one if not several autobiographies so hardly seems likely his age/birth date has never been queried before now.
   I don’t know why there is such an instant knee jerk ‘they’re lying’ response nowadays – we heard it about Meghan Markle’s age, about Obama’s place of birth – and the latter no matter how many records were produced still were never enough.
   Until there is more credible evidence than Linda’s ‘recollections’ can I suggest this subject is closed.

2. Tara, many thanks for your help! While it says he was born in 1965, it also has the month or quarter year down as June instead of March. BDM relies on volunteers transcribing by hand instead of scanning the microfiche records, which could be open to mistakes if not abuse. They also have wikipedia down as some sort partner to get BDM info regarding births, deaths and marriages.

   I still think that I am right about him being older, because I cannot unremember him in 1978 and neither can a few of my friends. So I find myself at an impasse of of not being right and not being wrong.

   • All sorts of things are possible, but I think you have to look at what is likely. There are other online GRO sources, here’s a scan of the entry itself:

     https://imgur.com/a/EciCGkO

     He looks about the same age as Boris Johnson to me *shrug*. Some people age better than others. Maybe there’s another person with a similar name?

3. Marjorie, I do not know quite how to respond to your criticism concerning Piers Morgan year of birth. I started reading articles by him in the tabloids in 1978. So if you believe Wikipedia about the date of birth that would have made him 13 years old. Not impossible, just unlikely.

   Frederick Forsyth says that everything on Wikipedia concerning himself is wrong. However, Wikipedia is excellent on historical people and events. I went to drama school with a young woman who became a pop star and an actress. Wikipedia got her date of birth right, but not the drama school. At that time there were only two.

   So forgive me if I am sceptical about the year of his birth. And yes all the tabloid info about him give the same year. And unless you apply to the authority that houses all birth, death and marriage certificates, we are not likely to find out. It used to be St Catherine’s House, but I don’t think it is anymore. But as this has annoyed you no end, I won’t bother questioning it anymore.

   • Anyone can edit Wikipedia. So not all info from it can be trusted.

   • You don’t have to go to St Catherine’s House any more, the GRO index is held on several online databases. Here’s a free one: https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

     There won’t be too many records for “Piers O’Meara” born in Surrey, I’m willing to gamble.

4. Linda, I have also pondered on how these belligerent bullies manage to sustain partnerships. Simplified- “water seeks it’s own level”. Astrologically, I understand that the houses reveal the environment in which the planetary placements operate. eg: Venus or Jupiter well aspected in the 7th house or other such mitigating factors. As Marjorie frequently demonstrates the synergy has powerful influences.

5. Sorry about rubbing everyone up the wrong way. My intent wasn’t to defend Piers Morgan, because he is decidedly awful, but to say that people behave differently in their private lives. He is evidently besotted with his present missus and treats her as a trophy wife. Yes she has been a journalist in the past, and is now a novelist.

   His first wife, who was a ward sister in a NHS hospital when they met is probably deserving of more sympathy. She leads a private life.

   As for Simone Biles, admittedly I haven’t followed The Olympics much this year, mainly because I have been falling asleep in front of the telly almost every time I sit down and watch it. But I did hear on the radio 2 news that she had decided in the end to go for it, after tweaking the choreography. Sorry if that is the wrong terminology. Anyway she seemed really pleased to earn Bronze, and I am pleased for her. I wish her well in all her future endeavours.

   I do have issues with assuming that spouses of awful people must be awful people themselves Presuming guilt by association is a terrible thing.

   Many years ago, in the states I read about this man who was driving home in terrible weather. He took pity on this hitchhiker and gave him a lift. After a few miles he was pulled over by the police where he soon found out that his passenger had robbed and killed the gas station proprietor. And because the good samaritan had given the perpetrator a lift he was deemed an accessory to the crime. He served quite a long sentence before being released.

   We are supposed to presume people innocent until proven guilty, and I was not comfortable with assuming that Celia Walden was a metaphorical Bonnie to Piers Morgan’s Clyde.

   • Linda, Marriage partners are hardly random hitch hikers picked up by the side of the road. Like it or not – and it can be an excruciating process in therapy working it out – everyone attracts themselves to someone who carries at least one of their unconscious issues. It goes back to Carl Jung’s thought that – what we are unconscious of meets us on the outside as if it were fate.
     I’ve always been fascinated by saint and sinner marriages – one shining white and the other nasty. And having been a keen observer of a couple of instances over several years, it becomes obvious they are not as chalk and cheese as they appear. The nasty partner isn’t quite as nasty and the angelic one not so sparkly white as the roles they have assigned themselves.
     Relationship dynamics are fascinating.
     Might I humbly suggest if you haven’t informed yourself about subjects, you refrain from commenting – e.g Piers Morgan’s age – perfectly easy to look up wiki and check the trajectory of his life. And Simone Biles. Throwing out random misplaced jibes is irritating to read and can’t continue ad infinitum.

6. While I am not particurly fond of Piers Morgan, I do think it is important not to perceive people as 2 dimensional or in black and white. I shouldn’t have to point out that he is paid to be controversial . That’s right it is his job. We all behave differently as to whatever situation we find ourselves in.

   As he has already expressed his distress at not being allowed to see his sons
   during lockdown: this points to the fact that his domestic life being considerably different to the persona that he presents to the world. As to his wife I consider it obnoxious and rude, considering that she is a journalist that she is considered scum of the Earth, without any real proof that she might be, because she is married to someone considered persona non grata.

   As for Meghan Markle, she knew what she was in for the moment she decided to reject him, having courted him in the first place. As for the others, I tend to think the popularity of woke attitudes might be a little difficult for others of a different generation to swallow. Many do not see the point of pulling out, once you are actually there. Why not just give it a try. Having waited five tears for the Olympics, why is it beyond belief that your country expects you to do your best instead of pulling out at the last minute? Yes, I know about the abuse. But she could have pulled out at anytime; but instead it comes across as politically motivated. And that is more the motivation, than the perceived racism. If any of these women had been white, racism wouldn’t have even presented itself. Perceived racism and actual racism are two different things.

   • It may be Morgan’s job nowadays but he chose it – and it fits his astrology/personality. The majority of people wouldn’t opt for a slash-and-burn career which hurts people. He isn’t always wrong but he gets unhinged about whichever hobby horse he is riding.

     Marriage partners – are our alter egos. Yes I would gauge them according to who their spouse is.

     Meghan Markle may well have known but so did he. No one would be more aware of the transactional nature of showbiz relationships than someone like him who’d been around it all his adult life.

     As to Simone Biles – did you bother to read any of the news pieces about it?
     Late this May she was executing moves so difficult no one else could attempt them. Then she had problems evidently in training running into the Olympics. In warm up trials in Tokyo she posted two videos of herself struggling with dismounts from the uneven bars. The first showed her landing on her back on the mat, the second showed her falling to the mat in apparent frustration after she still needed to complete another half twist.
     ‘Twisties’ cause gymnasts to lose their sense of space and dimension in midair — even if they have performed the same manoeuver for years without problems – and can last up to two weeks at a time. Maybe she hoped she’d shake herself loose of it when it came to the moment. How is it any different to Brit athlete Asher-Smith pulling her hamstring five weeks before Tokyo and turning up praying she’d cope somehow – then finding she couldn’t.

     I’ve added a par to the end of the Biles post.

   • Linda, I have seen footage of him (it was covertly recorded) shouting, belittling and being absolutely vile to a Black woman assistant when he was in the US. Please don’t waste your time trying to defend him.

     • VF, I think Linda must be a lawyer because she seems to enjoy defending the indefensible.

       • Oii you! This isnt twitter, to be backstabbing people with other posters.
         This is a reputable Astrology blog, so have the honour to say it directly, or not at all.

         • Marina, Calm it,

           If you mean Roderick, he can be a touch over the top at times and will be dealt with if he goes too far. But Linda’s post was harshly judgemental and not well informed which tends to ratchet up the mood unnecessarily.

7. Marina, you are so sharp, I do admire your perceptions and comments. Regarding your comments on how astro signs play out in reality- I have read in one of Liz Greene’s books, that we come into a certain sign to learn the characteristics of that sign, eg- Libra’s challenge is to learn balance, Virgo to learn discernment, Aries to learn courage etc;- it all makes more sense if we look at it that way.

   • Cheers Jac. I think Aires needs to learn innovation, initiation and independant thought rather than courage particularly.Especially since the signs
     lead from one to the other .i.e. Aires comes after Pisces the sign of absorption ideology and propaganda.
     So the question begs, will Aires shout the latest Zeitgeist fads from their soapboxes a la Morgan, even if its often the contrarian, or opposite view, i.e. be mental sheep easily led, follower and inflamer both, or will they find their own ideas without needing the negative Libra dynamic of positive reinforcement by followers.

     See Influencers etc and that pr**k Russel Brand, Moon conjunct Mars and Jupiter in Aires , enabled by a Gemini Sun.
     There is not a bandwagon on earth that he wouldnt jump onto.

     I rest my case 🙂

     • Marina, the one Aries man I knew attached himself to a political cause which he would lecture you about at length and picked battles wherever he went. He couldn’t go shopping without falling out with the man at the fish counter and demanding to see the manager.

       I did once look at Brand’s YT channel. I can’t argue with your assessment of him.

       • Dear virgoflake you are a naughty astrologer, just one Airean test case, thats not science innit?
         I make my Airean claims on a multitude of ram interactions, not just one …;)

         • Marina, What was the point of this riposte?

8. Are you sure about him, in his marriage? I have known a few men just like him in their professional lives, only to find them quite submissive and willing to please in their domestic ones. I doubt his wife would have stayed with him if he treated her badly. She doesn’t strike me as someone that would put up with it. He is a bit dual natured and that has probably added to his success. I am sure that there is some indication in his chart that shows this, though you might have to search to find it.

   • ‘I doubt his wife would have stayed with him if he treated her badly. She doesn’t strike me as someone that would put up with it.’

     You don’t consider Piers being butthurt over Meghan Markle( who is almost young enough to be his daughter) ghosting him over four years ago being treated badly?
     His wife works for tabloids so her self or morality is probably on the same level as his–it’s all about the money.

     ‘He is a bit dual natured and that has probably added to his success’

     Piers has been a bit of a one-trick pony lately attacking women of color for his racist fans. First Meghan Markle, then Naomi Osaka and now Simone Biles.

     All of them are talented and actually earned their money by doing something positive instead of scribbling bile appealing to the lowest common denominator like Morgan.

9. Had to laugh at the comment about Piers’ career plan! I would have expected to see his horoscope reveal difficulties, but that Mars, Saturn, Pluto! Think he could be a lot worse. Find his vitriol towards MM unnecessary- we have all been deleted when our purpose has been served, and yes it’s hurtful- time to let it go Piers!
   I am a woman with ‘balls’, and a lot of people don’t like it. Aqua Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars Sagg, Aries rising, Uranus (in Leo) opposite Sun and Venus. A lot of hot air! Don’t see many men like Piers, who do have the balls to speak their mind and go against the grain. He is not in tune- like so many men- with today’s zeitgeist- Life is moving forward on not taking misogynists with it. It’s almost imperceptible, but it is happening. .
   Re Marina’s comments on conservative women. I despair of the women’s empowerment when so many women enable their child/husband to run rampant in return for their perceived ‘status’. Don’t dare call out the husband, they will both crush you. These women know their cowardly child will always come back to them, just like their fathers did their mothers.

   • I should have stipulated that leftist women can be guilty of it too.
     Its ingrained ‘the god child’ who sucks all attention.
     And this is cross culture, its still bloody everywhere.

10. He’s awful, but I think he likes being that way. There’s a certain “he only does it to annoy because he knows it teases” about him. I wondered if he puts on a persona in his professional life but looking at the natal chart, I see he is probably in a domestic context very difficult to live with too (Moon/Saturn opposing Mars/Uranus/Pluto). I also wondered if losing his father when he was only 11 months old might have some significant effect on him, in terms of his identity. He has only one older brother, no sisters and his mother was a devout Catholic, which may be the reason for that rather heavy duty Moon/Saturn conjunction in Pisces. All in all, his chart doesn’t look good for relating to women.

    That generational Saturn in Pisces opposition Uranus/Pluto in Virgo ime can be very tricky. When Mars is involved, it has potential to become explosive and unpredictable. Both Gordon Ramsey and Johnny Depp have this marker. I remember GnarlyDude mentioned that there can a victim mentality with this particular generational pattern and you see this clearly whenever Morgan has been called out on his aggressive behaviour – he immediately employs DARVO and becomes the ‘poor victim’. It’s funny – for an Aries he’s such a colossal coward.

    • Hey VF – thanks for the nod. Have a read up on the Drama Triangle (if you haven’t already) – his game fits on that nicely.

    • “He’s awful” I laughed out loud VF, yes …he is…..I sent a post but it never made it, I do think his macho Aries shines out Merc/Sun/Ven conjunction there and Venus is his vocational indicator so he IS sociable – but then you see the very sad Moon/Saturn in Pisces dead opposite the Mars/Ur/Pluto in….Virgo – complicated? mwa? Pas the gin and the loaded gun….

      • Lol Maggy.

    • I often think we misunderstand the way the signs play out in reality. The more I observe the more I think that the signs represent qualities that we need to develope as well as describing the circumstances of our life.
      So Aires are often followers [sheep] and imitators rather than innovators etc

      As to his courage, Mars in Virgo, especially conjunct Pluto and opposite Saturn in Pisces is pretty fear soaked, hence his reactionary belligerence.

      • @ Marina: I have heard other astrologers describe Aries as the great imitators of the zodiac before which goes against the conventional astrological wisdom about Aries. For instance, Aries can run off with ideas developed by others as if they are the first to have discovered them. Just thinking about the other signs, do you have any other paradoxical examples along this line of thinking?
        You are right Mars Pluto Saturn is about feeling profundly unsafe – hence the attack as defence mentality which can be out of all proportion in relation to the perceived threat. A similar bellicose, reactionary character is Farage is born in 1964. He has Sun & Mars in Aries in hard aspect to Pluto and Uranus respectively which is reinforced by his Virgo Ascendant sandwiched between the Virgo Uranus Pluto conjunction opposition Chiron in Pisces. His BML in Sagittarius squares the disruptive (even reactionary?) Uranus Pluto conjunction – that is why it does not surprise me that fighting the perceived oppression of the EU has been his life-long cause.

        • ‘ For instance, Aries can run off with ideas developed by others as if they are the first to have discovered them.’
          Absolutely! Especially Mercury in Aires, I often think of them as smash n grab bandits, they’ll nick your whole persona if you let them.
          And then there is the issue of their conveniently bad memory on the subject.
          I could talk about Aires and banditry for quite some time… Out of interest, who were they, do you remember?
          As to other signs, finding ones courage, Leo. Virgo indiscriminate fornicaton, the temple whore dynamic.
          And theres little peaceful about Taurus unless they are medicated . As to Libra and Alice through the Looking glass psycho, where do I start…
          Oh, and Aquarians are facists
          🙂

        • As to Capricorns, think the Great God Pan, and Panic and Pandemic and Pandemonium !

          And cheating apparently.

          According to Ashley Madison the infamous Infidelity website, the top five zodiac signs of their customers are
          1. Capricorn
          2. Aquarius
          3. Pisces, and there will be adjacent Mercury and Venuses with the above.
          4. Taurus
          5. Cancer and those 2 will possibly have Gemini Mercury and Venuses.

      • Hmmm, I’ve seen most Aries as mavericks. No brain, but forceful and with no regrets. Sometimes I admire them, sometimes traying to avoid them.
        In my experience, Libra (Moon) is a typical follower, at least fashion wise. 😀

    • Virgoflake, spot on.
      “He’s awful, but I think he likes being that way.”

      As far as I remember, R.Murdoch once described him “as a man who’s got balls bigger than his brain!
      A definition of a flibbertigibbet – he doesn’t want to stop – Aries placements. X house – craves attention, or to be relevant, at cost of being a total jerk. He just doesn’t care.
      Luna in highly sensitive Pisces, when felt betrayed, and sometimes just for the sake of twisted fun is prone to emotional blackmail, when afflicted, and Saturn is not an easy challenge, can also be very reactive, nor big on compassion – not even in Pisces!
      And finally, somethin that most astrology enthusiast not mentioning – Virgo placements!!! When it comes to nitpicking, vengefulness, resentment, bitterness, holding grudges for years, revenge, Scorpio doesn’t even come close to Champion Virgo. Scorpio is a fixed sign, will let you down the drain and never look back – my definition of an Eraser. But Virgo, oh boy! Watch out for that one – pure vitriol ( with challenging aspects).
      And his Virgo placements are in the III – communications, he just doesn’t wont to stop being prolific ( Mercury as a dispositor in Aries conj. Sun).
      Not surprisingly, Very cardinal/mutable chart, except Scorpio Neptune, and money making Taurus Jupiter. Jupiter being on Algol will be interesting to watch with transit Uranus just around the corner…

      • I used to know a Sun in Virgo – Uranus/Pluto/Mercury/Sun – who could unleash her venom (and there was a lot of it – she suffered from envy and insecurity) in a sweet, saccharine voice. She was a master of the art of the backhanded compliment. Far, far more barbed than any Scorpio I’ve come across.

        • @Virgoflake
          Thanks. It’s nice to know I’m not the only one.
          I had an epiphany with Virgo Uranus/Pluto square Gemini Sun/Venus/Mars.
          And you are right once again – insecurity! Still don’t understand why – highly educated, earning above average (understatement) and good looking. One of the meanest people I’ve ever met.

          • I think the darker side of Virgo can be over critical and fussy sometimes and has the capacity to use words as missiles. Dorothy Parker made a living out of it and she did it superbly but then she had a 0 degree Virgo Sun conjunct Mars square Pluto in Gemini and no one can be too scathing about ‘Atlas Shrugged’ by Ayn Rand. “This is not a novel to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force” is a classic.

          • With two great Virgo Sun friends, one from the childhood days, I can definitely confirm that overcritical/analytical fits the bill. Also very reluctant when it comes to parting with money 😀 Love them both.
            Now you got me looking into D. Parker chart – in her case, Virgo conjunction have/had a massive help from Scorpio Uranus and a serious Capricorn Moon – both signs not prone to laying and playing games. Gemini conjunction also goes well with Leo Mercury. Marvelously pushy and opinionated. So she had an “outlet” for that Virgo/Gemini square. And she didn’t hesitate using it.

            Ex colleague/friend I was referring has 2nd degree Cancer Mercury, but without making an aspect to Virgo placements, or any aspect for that matter. Prolific, somehow funny, but manipulative, gossipy in a nasty way, prone to exaggerating, it would throw you under the bus in no time – it wasn’t just verbal nastiness. Since then, I started analyzing Virgo placements more carefully.

            To end on a high note, with Miss Parker words:
            “There’s hell of distance between wise-cracking and wit. Wit has truth in it; wise-cracking is simply calisthenics with words.

11. Women on social media are commenting that out of shape middle age white men seem to be the most strident about Simone. She is getting great support overall. Katie Ladecky maybe happy to get less attention as she adds 2 golds and a silver. Morgan made a pass at Charlize Theron while interviewing her on CNN. I stopped watching him after that, so his ratings dropped because he was creepy.

12. Celia Walden, who is married to Piers Morgan told The Sun: “Well, I always think of that famous quote, ‘Behind every great man, there’s a woman rolling her eyes’ — I am that woman.”
    His considerable luck will turn at some point. Even Teflon wears thin with heat and age.

    • ““Well, I always think of that famous quote, ‘Behind every great man, there’s a woman rolling her eyes’ — I am that woman.”’
      I’ve known too many women who makes comments like that.
      Tbh I find it deplorable, its a kind of infantalising enabling, that reinforces all the old power structures. You particularly see it in Conservative women and conservative societies, but not exclusively, who want to retain their status as mother/wives.

      “my little man is so hopeless with tasks, social qeues, self understanding, observance, awareness, sensitivity,practicality, humanity etc etc etc, but he is my man child, and thats where my power lies, reminding myself and the world that I am morally superior.
      And no matter how much this dynamic perpetuates myths and fundamentally disadvantages me and any other woman he interacts with, I will continue to indulge him, and by extension, myself.”

13. Crikes although I’ve had a very cursory look at his chartt in the past, his date of birth didnt sink in.
    I thought he was quite a bit older than that looking at him, although his emotional age was always juvenile. I guess thats what a life of hard drinking and bullshitting yourself does to a body 🙁
    Usually Mars in Virgo is more circumspect and self aware, but with the exact conjunction to Uranus Pluto opp Saturn and all those Aires planets, and inconjunct the Arien sun, it explains his self blindness
    Iwent out with a guy with moon in virgo in the same position with Uranus Pluto opp Saturn and late Mars in Taurus square that axis, he was incredibly violent and mysoginistic, despite shouting his socialist values from the roof top. We are seeing a lot of that kind of dynamic currently 🙁

    • He started young and has lived a full life since then. I’ve added a para at the end of the piece on his age.

      • Thats what is, the corrupting influence of Murdoch! 😉

        • ‘it’

        • It’s what happens when you have actual physical contact with the cold, dead hand of Murdoch. Like the Royal Touch but in reverse.

          • Nosferatu

    • Oh Marina, you win the prize of the week for the Best Sentence…..I went out with a guy with Moon in Virgo in the same position with Uranus Pluto opp Saturn and late Mars in Taurus square that axis, he was incredibly mysoginistic, despite shout his social values from the roof top – bravo! you made my day………!

      • Well thank you Maggy.
        The sentence construction was terrible, but you clearly heard the message 😉

        • No it was from the heart! construction comes a long way down the line!

          • xx

14. Morning…Aside from the astrology, could it be that this sad specimen is both a misogonist and a down and out racist. His biggest targets always seem to be women and with Ms. Biles his poutrage seems to have exploded.