The continuing fascination and embarrassment surrounding the Meghan-Harry roadshow continues with a dud polo Netflix series streaming and disappearing, various splotches of critical media comment and no sign of the upmarket jam jamboree landing soon.
While I would love to wish them happy ever after, all the indications are that after a hugely stressful four years of tr Pluto square their composite Saturn Pluto and opposition the composite Moon, they are heading into a dip in 2025. Tr Neptune will be opposition the composite Mars Venus into 2026 which will feel like failure and that is followed in 2026 by a major disruption from tr Uranus square the composite Sun and opposition composite Uranus.
The wedding chart is also being ground down with tr Pluto conjunct the Mars and square Uranus running on from 2023 to late 2025. Plus a jolting, destabilizing tr Uranus conjunct the Sun in 2025 (which was coincidentally conjunct the destructive star Algol).
On Sun/Moon midpoints which are the marriage significator. Meghan’s at 8 degrees Virgo had a separating tr Saturn in opposition in early 2024 as they started to appear solo at various events. Harry’s Sun/Moon midpoint won’t pick up similar until 2027.
Tr Saturn Neptune in Aries from mid 2025 onwards won’t suit Meghan’s Moon, Saturn, Jupiter since they will oppose those planets, undermine her confidence and pose questions about her domestic life amongst others. 2027 to 2029 look difficult years for her.
Harry looks lost in terms of direction in 2027 but gradually thereafter he is heading into a more visible and hands-on phase of his life as tr Saturn moves slowly towards the end of his low profile First Quadrant which started at the time of his wedding.
His relationship to his late mother Princess Diana is omnipresent and may be a key to his marriage. Diana’s Cancer Sun fell conjunct his Descendant (as does Meghan’s Mars in Cancer) – key to his sense of partnership. Diana’s Venus in Taurus was conjunct his Taurus Moon for an affectionate bond and Meghan’s Chiron is conjunct his Moon – so there will be a healing connection on both sides.
Harry’s Chiron falls in his 5th house of children, which is possibly where he seeks a balm.
Harry’s relationship chart with his mother was affectionate and idealistic with a Grand Trine of Venus trine Moon trine Neptune, and a possessive Moon opposition Pluto. A much stronger bond in many ways than between William and his mother which has worked to Will’s advantage in freeing him up to settle into a different style of marriage.
Diana’s can-be-destructive Mars Pluto and wilful Uranus both fell in Harry’s 8th house for a deep and disturbing bond.
Meghan and Diana would undoubtedly have clashed with Meghan’s Mars conjunct Diana’s Sun for a competitive interface.
Two thoughts – Meghan is broadly similar to Diana, since both in their own way were drama queens (and both came from broken homes). Both were/are quite destructive in their need for vengeance.
The second is a personal Virgo beef. How can they be so impractical when it comes to setting up projects? Employing endless expensive help who leave regularly and they keep ending up in a muddle over what appear to be basic details, permissions, copyright etc and either not completing or ignoring marketing advice to end up with vacuous nonsense. Diana at least put in the legwork to build a platform for the global image she later established. Meghan seemed to want the end result without the slog.
Add On: California was never going to be a launching pad for Prince Harry since it puts his Moon in the hidden 8th and his Sun in the hidden 12th – maybe OK for sorting himself out. But a place to lie low.
Meghan, I never quite understood, since relocating to London puts her Sun Mercury on the Midheaven for career success with a far-travelled Mars in the 9th and a friendly Venus in the 11th. It could have given her what she wanted had she stuck it out and taken on the Commonwealth with Harry.
Thanks Marjorie – endless fascination, and family patterns to explore. They had a beautiful wedding day, with cheering crowds and late spring sunshine. But it has certainly been a rollercoaster ride since then.
I noticed that Venus on the Wedding Day chart was 29 Gemini, passing opposite Harry’s natal Neptune, 28 Sagittarius for a dreamy, romantic atmosphere perhaps? What’s interesting is that Venus on that day was conjunct Wallis Simpson’s Gemini Sun, and Elizabeth the Queen Mother’s Neptune. It opposed the QM’s Saturn, 29 Sagittarius, and squared her BML 28 Virgo. Wallis Simpson and the Queen Mother’s marriages brought the unexpected – WS had a long life more or less in exile, the QM had to step up to a new role when her shy husband unexpectedly became King when Edward abdicated. Tr Neptune and Saturn haven’t finished with this mutable web just yet, and there’s A Virgo Solar eclipse squaring it next autumn too. Possibly a time of confusion and seeking new clarity or goals?
Wallis Simpson’s natal Neptune conjunct Mercury and Venus in Gemini (!) are aspecting Meghan’s natal Neptune, Harry’s Mars (and square his Sun) the Wedding’s Pisces Neptune, and the QM’s natal Pluto in Gemini which opposes her Chiron, 19 Sagittarius.
There seems to be a fair amount of Neptune here. Another potential fairy tale or karmic motif in this generational story might be –
Diana Sun 9 Cancer
Queen Mother Venus 7 Cancer
Meghan Mars 11 Cancer, Jupiter 6 Libra, Saturn 5 Libra
Harry Black Moon Lilith 12 Aries, Ascendant 12 Libra
Wallis Simpson BML 10 Aries
The spring Solar eclipse at 9 Aries might be worth watching. Venus Rx and Neptune will be 29 Pisces then, highlighting all those late mutable connections – dissolving some kind of dream? Or challenging it to become more solid, with Saturn encouraging some sort of sacrifice? I might imagine the ancestral vibes of Wallis and the QM getting involved too.
Just to add, Meghan’s nodes with NN at 1 Leo very much tie her into the Windsors with their planets on early degrees of fixed signs. With transit Pluto hovering over her South Node all this year in the 7th it’s perhaps not surprising that the Sussex business relationships haven’t thrived.
I knew someone with Sun Cancer born a few weeks before Meghan. The same Jupiter Saturn in Libra signature. She was also one of those Prince Will’s fan girls in the late 90s. The problem might be rebelling against the saturn in the Jupiter Saturn conjunction especially in this 2 cases it was Libra. The sign of fine taste, nice things, but without the hard work. Friend growing up was not doing any household chores. The parents pick up the slack. But saturn lesson is always there. Guess as she got older. Her parents got older as well and is less able to do much for her.
And I agreed with Helen, I ditched the hard work for years as teenager and later as young adult in some areas. Looking back now, I do kind of regret. But then again, there is still time to sow before my next saturn return but few months left to deal with the transit Saturn in Aries quincunx my Natal. Saturn.
I really hope this comment section doesn’t turn into a hate fest. We just celebrated Christmas…
But I noticed you barely mentioned anything positive happening for them. They both have Jupiter transiting with Harry moving to Jupiter in Taurus in March. Will that not bring any good news? What about his court case against the Sun?
Impetuous was the word which came to mind. Transiting Pluto in Capricorn in the 3rd relocation house was square her relocation Pluto in the 12th and activating her Natal Pluto in her 4th house – home. The 3rd house is young childhood and communication. Maybe she felt trapped with this Capricorn Pluto transit. Having just had the birth of her own child. She wanted her security. Saturn is the ultimate Ruler. Capricorn is also the Ruler of the 10th house – Authority. I think she blamed the Queen’s authority, because her Natal Pluto in the natal 4th house was feeling submerged with emotions, as her relocated 12th Pluto – was being influenced by Pisces/ Neptune. She couldn’t handle being bogged down and she panicked. Her Marriage chart also had Pluto at that same degree in Capricorn, squaring her Natal Pluto at that time – she was questioning everything and fled – externalising her emotions onto the Queen/authority and Royalty. One day, when she reflects, she may think about what she threw away. As, like Marjorie states, her relocation chart was giving her iconic status. Yet maybe Pluto was meant to explode the bomb and blow it up. As sometimes Saturn is known as the Lord Karma?
Interesting read, thank you. I remember Marjorie writing about both Harry & Meghan blaming external parties for what wasn’t working in the relationship.
Does the relocation chart work for Harry? I remember thi king that Meghan in London put her sun on the mc…which definitely raised her profile but she was never going to be able to compete with Taurus queen
Firstly I have to say, they’ve generally done the right thing this year by keeping low profile this year. Well done them.
The Christmas card is interesting in that while it features the children; it doesn’t. I assume this is H&M thinking they are protecting the children but I’m fairly sure it will backfire and be perceived later by the children as being an embarrassment or simply not important enough.
The wedding must be coming up to its 7-year itch next year. I assume that is the transit Saturn square Saturn which will take place in 2026. Actually interesting to consider that with its Saturn at 8Capricorn that sits square Meghan’s MC-IC and key planets in 3rd.
As for the impracticality of projects – it doesn’t surprise me given Meghan has 1st/3rd house Leo/Libra “let’s give this a try” energy. Harry with his Virgo should be a little more practical but it square the Sag planets and a chunk of his energy is 9th house exploratory. With his moon in 4th and those Virgo 8th planets I’d say sorting himself out is his focus.
The Libran planets do seem to reflect that energy of starting something, but the square from Cardinal Mars in Cancer in house 12 in MM’s chart does lead one to feel that there just isn’t the focused hardworking energy to get it going, so things just fizzle out. Mars in the 12th is difficult and in Cancer prone to moodiness. The loss of their key aide, Josh Kettler earlier this year for instance who was the 18th member of their staff to quit may suggest that they are stubborn and refuse to listen to good, sound advice. The failure of American Riviera Orchard to launch, despite being heralded earlier in the year and the many other projects which have failed to get off the ground doesn’t make their business acumen look good. The Columbian tour earlier this year was underwhelming and iirc did not have permission from King Charles. Yes, the trouble with Harry’s Virgo Sun is the square to Mars in Sagittarius, making him short tempered and prone to impulsivity, though it fits well with the game of Polo with that Sag Mars.