Gavin Newsom, handsome, articulate and fighting back with wit and punch, is apparently the Democratic hope for 2028.
Born 20 October 1967 5.13 am San Francisco, with his father a state appeals court judge, he took a degree in political science, went into the wine business and then into local politics as Mayor of San Fran for two terms and then Governor, now on his second term.
He has a Libra Sun close to the USA Saturn in Libra which in the USA’s case should but clearly doesn’t put fair minded behaviour and respect for rules and agreements up as a priority. So he will be sensitive to transgressions. He has the reforming, rebellious Uranus Pluto in Virgo in his 1st with a self-reliant Saturn in Aries in his 7th house of relationships. His 4th house Mars in Sagittarius square his Uranus Pluto will give him a steely edge.
His relationship chart with the USA has an upbeat and popular composite Jupiter Uranus Venus; as well as a strong controlling Pluto square the Sun and sextile Mars.
Although at the 2028 election he has tr Jupiter trine his Midheaven which is lucky and successful in a mild way, he has much stronger negative indicators – tr Pluto square his Mars/Pluto midpoint at the election is frustrated in the extreme and blocked. (Could be enraged at dirty tricks?) Tr Saturn in Taurus also opposes his Mars/Pluto midpoint across mid November which is equally not good news for him. His Solar Arc Mars is also square his Neptune across the electoral/Inauguration period which usually indicates that plans do not succeed. Across the Inauguration he looks (explosively) unsettled with tr Pluto square his Mars/Uranus midpoint.
James Talarico born May 17, 1989, with a background in education and divinity is seen as a “rising star” among Texan Democrats and is the Democratic nominee for the 2026 U.S. Senate election in Texas.
A late Sun Taurus he is part of the triple conjunction generation with high-energy, marginally chaotic Uranus, Neptune, Saturn in Capricorn in a volatile opposition to Mars in Cancer. He looks in good spirits around this coming November senate election and just after with tr Jupiter square his Sun and conjunct his Mercury/Pluto midpoint and Venus/Pluto midpoint; with a lucky tr Uranus conjunct his Sun/Jupiter.
Newsom has transiting Jupiter conjunct his Sun on election day 2028 so I wouldn’t rule him out given that the same transit put Trump back in the White House in 2024 despite DT’s chart having a lot of other stressful indicators.
@cj1: Bernie Sanders was also vehemently opposed to Governor Shapiro, for his interference with PA universities to suppress pro-Palestinian campus rallies and for arbitrarily giving himself the power to fire State employees for protesting the genocide in Gaza. Are you saying that Bernie Sanders, who is Jewish, reeks of anti-semitism?
Unfortunately, there are plenty of Zionists who are more than happy to label non-zionist Jews as “self-hating,” though you’d think the desire to uphold international human-rights law and ensure that “never again” applies to all would be the pro-social, pro-better-future-for-humanity move we all need, given the decimation of international norms under the first DJT term.
In any case, at least cj1 seems to have read the latest polls on the rising number of Americans who empathize with Palestinians.
And the Dems definitely know they lost, in large part, because their 2024 chosen candidates showed enough inhumanity to crack the carefully pieced together coalition that won Biden his presidency in 2020, as a post-election analysis (https://actionnetwork.org/forms/take-action-release-the-dnc-autopsy/) they’re refusing to release is showing.
So, just like the Epstein files can finally reveal the level of debasement the right is willing to tolerate of the U.S. presidency–Where’s the outcry now that we know that DJT likely raped and physically assaulted a young teenager? (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article314945648.html)–let’s get this post-2024-presidential-election analysis out in the open, so we can see whether the Dems will learn from their failed attempt to hold the American public hostage over their fear of a 2nd DJT term or race the Republicans further to the bottom.
Andy Beshear/Mark Kelly 2028
Vote Blue no matter who
Andy Beshear – 29 November 1977, Lexington, KY at 22:50.
..should anyone want to chart his 2028 prospects.
I have a family friend in fed gov – when Biden was stepping aside jb Pritzker was being considered by the dnc- they went w Kamala obv but I don’t think the American people understand how much the dnc picks the candidate. It won’t be Gavin- they don’t think a Californian can win a general election. I lived in Chicago when jb was headed towards governor- Chicago politicians are really tough – I’ll vote for any dem nominee at this stage, but as a Minnesotan – it was music to my ears when he told noem she wasn’t going to get to walk offstage quietly into the night.
@Jaidy, the 2024 election results would have been worse for Democrats if especially down ballot if Kalama had not been on the ballot.
Overlooking a sitting VP especially the first female and who was also the first female of color have severely depressed the black female vote which went 92% for Harris.
Republicans have demonized Chicago and to a lesser extent Illinois for decades as the California of the Midwest as corrupt and bankrupt.
As for Pritzker her has an imagine problem. He is overweight and in today’s telegenic world being even slightly out of shape is big liability.
Even Chris Christie realized that when he was governor of NJ that he needed a trimmer physique which he got through weight loss surgery because he had his sights set on a White House run.
Well, I *am* “unlucky” enough to be a U.S. citizen right now, so if Marjorie is taking requests, as someone who will be even more directly affected by the outcome of the 2028 election, I’ll throw out a suggestion: Gov. J.B. Pritzker of Illinois. Marjorie mentioned him briefly in an August post titled “Trump vs. Chicago.”
J.B. seems less likely than others to be the nominee but would, I think, be a much better candidate than the ones suggested here. He stood strongly against the administration’s anti-immigrant crusade early on, and especially when it came to his city and state. Before Minneapolis captured everyone’s imagination, Chicago was besieged for four months, from September through December, after ICE and CBP descended on the Windy City and environs to unleash the idiotically named “Operation Midway Blitz” (a reference to Midway Airport).
It was in Chicago that ICE/CBP perfected many of the brutal tactics they later used in Minnesota. In response, Chicagoans banded together to pioneer and perfect the resistance techniques that Minnesotans used—observer networks, mutual aid groups supporting immigrants, whistle brigades, massive peaceful protests; as well as mockery and gallows humor (bullies and inflated egos aren’t well tolerated here).
Thousands were illegally detained in brutal conditions, several were killed, and many more were brutalized and injured. ICE/CBP used teargas, rubber bullets, illegal restraints, and at times live ammo. They deployed teargas on a children’s parade and near schools, buzzed peaceful residential neighborhoods with Blackhawk helicopters, separated a new mother from her newborn, and fired rubber bullets at a priest in the midst of prayers (and laughed about it). And of course, they lied about everything.
Through it all, Pritzker provided strong leadership, working hard to protect and get justice for citizens, in a way no official in Minnesota did other than Mayor Jacob Frey.
It was also in Chicago that Trump tried, and failed, to manufacture a legal pretext for deploying the National Guard in a major city.
Trump hates and fears him J.B., which I consider a point in the latter’s favor. He also hates, as the beautiful city J.B. represents—the heart of the country and, not coincidentally, Obama’s home turf as well. (For what it’s worth, J.B.’s older sister, Penny Pritzker, was Obama’s Commerce Secretary.)
J.B. is more progressive than Newsom, Beshear, or Shapiro, but also pragmatic. In my opinion, he would be a good, unifying leader, but wouldn’t succumb to the typical U.S. political amnesia that has allowed us to infinitely repeat our mistakes. We need a nationwide soul searching to address how this trumpian nightmare happened and to ensure nothing like it ever happens again—as well as a painful public reckoning for everyone who created and enabled this mess, and who willfully violated the law, democratic principles, and simple human decency. J.B. could help facilitate that process. Thank you.
About Gavin Newsom — one thing that any California Democrat with national ambitions has to overcome is the perception that California Dems are extremely liberal and thereof totally out of touch with the rest of the US. This is true even if they’re not terribly liberal, as is the case with both Newsom and Harris.
This perception that Californians as a whole are just “out there” applies also in unrelated areas. I recall, while still living in Virginia and volunteering in recreational boating safety issues, offering the Virginia state boating law administrator a copy of the brochure on California’s innovative and effective safety measures on personal watercraft, then a new and hot topic in boating safety.
She rejected my offer, totally dismissive of any idea emerging from California.”We’re not interested in anything THEY’re doing out there.”
Newsom has a huge attitudinal hurdle to overcome.
Thank you. Would you please look at Kamala H? Perhaps she will try again. TY.
I can already predict the request for the next few follow-ups about other possible Democrat presidential candidates.
Could I request for an add-on for Josh Shapiro and Andy Beshear, two moderate Democrat governors of red or purple states? They meet the criteria of Pale, Male and Stale (but not witheringly so) which seems to have won US presidential elections in the past 10 years.
One of them, coupled with Mary Peltola of Alaska as the running mate, would be my favoured pair for the Democrat ticket for 2028, though thankfully I am lucky enough to not be a US citizen.
And thankfully, we are also lucky.
I’d also love a look at the Dem ticket 2028, but for Illinois Gov Pritzker who is wealthy enough to take on the corrupt Trump regime and has broadened out his fight to be about much more than anti Trump.
A little context for our elections for anyone who doesn’t live here: U.S. Political convention holds that a VP pick comes from a state they can deliver and bring surrounding votes with them, ala Gov Tim Walz appealing to midwestern voters, though pollsters and political science experts also argue about the notion that a VP can deliver anything.
From recent history: GOP VP nom Sarah Palin came from red state Alaska, a state she could deliver for Republicans, but not a state a Democrat could deliver for Democrats. (Caveat: All of this could be rapidly shifting in light of ICE murders and unpopular tariffs and very unpopular war.)
2024 VP Kamala Harris choosing between Gov Tim Walz and Gov Josh Shapiro, Shapiro said to bring Pennsylvania with him while Walz’ state was already solid blue, but he was said to appeal to midwestern voters. Shapiro was a no go with the pro Palestine segment of Dem base, and this remains an issue (unfairly and reeks of anti semitism, but is still a factor).
The VP never gets to do much publicly, so it’s a place we almost sacrifice someone to at least for that 4 years, unless god forbid something happens to the president. So parking a senate fighter like Harris there was a loss in some ways.
As a U.S. citizen, agree we need male and pale to win against an autocrat, but they also must appeal to the base enough to GOTV. That’s one key role of the VP pick esp in recent years. Worked in 2020 for Dems.
the mood here now is angry, so the long vaunted idea of a moderate Dem being safe might not apply. There are those who argue the mistake made by Harris was going too much toward Republicans, surrounding herself with them in the final days of the campaign. Too much of Dem base did not come out to vote in 24 (maybe the bomb scares at polling places in predominantly Black neighborhoods impacted that).
We also need someone who can fund their own campaign against the billionaire tech bros behind Trump/Republicans, because the press here is nearly all captured by Trump (CBS, CNN, Fox, OAN, WaPo, etc).
It’s a tall order, and I hope my fellow citizens are prepared to enthusiastically embrace less than perfect at long last, though that is obviously asking too much of people.
Sorry for the book! Also by the time I published this, AL22 has commented about Pritzker as well, so that’s two of us interested in him as the Dem candidate.