Andrew – the Royal dilemma intensifies ++ Prince George chart ++ over-forgiving mother

Prince Andrew emerges, as expected, as an unpleasant human being from the Andrew Lownie’s Entitled: The Rise and Fall of the House of York – sex obsessed and boorish, with an prurient, adolescent sense of humour, crassly arrogant, rude to staff and unsurprisingly lonely.

Journalist Petronella Wyatt said he reminded her of Princess Margaret, ‘who thought she was more royal than the Queen. He talked and you had to listen. He ignored all attempts to change the conversation and continued to make inappropriate jokes. He’s the most out of touch royal I’ve ever met and I’ve met lots. He really does believe in the Divine Right of Kings.’

  Boris Johnson after lunching with him said: “‘I’m the last person to be a republican but if I ever have to spend another lunch like that, I soon will be.’

 In 2021, after Meghan Markle was accused of bullying staff, Buckingham Palace braced itself for historic complaints about Prince Andrew’s bullying, profanities and impossible demands.

  It has all been said before but it does seem to be (has to be!) coming to a point of no return when the damage to the monarchy outweighs (or should) any family sentiment.

  Andrew, 19 February 1960 3.38pm London, with a dependent 7th house Pisces Moon Sun opposition Pluto, has a chart riddled with yods. His obsession with sex is pointed up in his Venus Mars conjunction in Capricorn sextile a Scorpio Moon. His willful, disruptive, intolerant, even lawless behaviour comes from Uranus on the focal point of a yod inconjunct Saturn sextile Mercury – which in other hands might have had a positive outcome as a trailblazer but in any event its catalytic effect will tend to give him the capacity to make irrevocable changes in his environment.  

  His overbearing self-importance comes from a focal point Jupiter in his attention-attracting 5th house square the North/South Node axis.

 He also has a yod of Moon sextile North Node inconjunct his Midheaven – which should have given him a singular direction in life but seems to have trapped him in a quandary. Perhaps anchored into arrested development by mother issues from his 4th house Scorpio Moon. His Moon fell exactly conjunct his mother Queen Elizabeth 11’s Midheaven, welding his emotional nurturing to her status.

 Transiting Uranus is square his Sun exactly now as his reputation is trashed even more effectively than before and will continue to rock n’ roll its way across his Sun/Pluto midpoint and then square Pluto into  2026/27 which suggests a phase of significant upheaval. His Solar Arc (focal point) Uranus is also aiming for his IC which also suggests an uprooting/relocation by next year. And both legs of that central yod will be affected by an undermining Solar Arc Neptune conjunct his natal Saturn later this year into 2026; and his Progressed Mars is conjunct his Mercury now – when yods are shaken by aspect it tends to shift life onto a different track . On top of all that tr Saturn Neptune will square his Jupiter across this winter denting his confidence.

  Given that he has zero self-awareness and an inordinate streak of obstinacy, any changes will have to come from outside.  

  Despite the fact that he has the ability to do damage to Charles’ image with Andrew’s Uranus conjunct Chas’s 1st house Pluto; and is a drain on the Royal purse with Andrew’s Pluto conjunct Chas’s 2nd house  Saturn, the Andrew Scorpio Moon conjunct Chas’s Scorpio Sun will make for a strong bond however uncomfortable.

 Charles and Anne did make an effort earlier this year to shift the dialogue but clearly to no effect. But there is no doubt that the next generation down are adamant he must go.

  William’s relationship chart with Andrew has a composite Saturn, Neptune, Mars pointing to implacable dislike and that is being triggered as tr Uranus moved into Gemini exactly now and opposes the Saturn, and in 2026/27  the composite Neptune and Mars – so the pressure from his side will escalate.

 One story that emerged from Lownie’s book was a scuffle between Prince Harry and Andrew (which Harry is denying!) but it seems all too likely with their relationship chart having a hostile, toxic Pluto square Jupiter Mars. That do-or-die struggle for the upper hand was being triggered by tr Pluto conjunct the Mars at the time of the alleged punch up in 2013 which would ramp up the heat considerably.  And tr Saturn was also square the Pluto and conjunct Mars around the time of Harry’s wedding which would be explosive as well.

  Andrew’s relationships with his two daughters Eugenie and Beatrice looks more troubled than usual at the moment and more so in 2026/27.

   The tentacles of Epstein show no signs of losing their grip anytime soon. It is an exceptionally odd phenomenon as his ripples still unsettle the White House and UK monarchy even years after he has departed for warmer climes.

I am pro-monarchy but they do themselves no favours at times. One way and another Andrew has to be shuffled off into oblivion.

ADD ON: Andrew was regarded by the inner circle as Queen Elizabeth 11’s favourite  which may have been partly because Charles in a sense belonged more to the monarchy/country than her as a mother. Or just standard family dysfunction where one child was liked more than others. Or because he was a ‘love child’.

  It was a very Neptunian chemistry so she possibly glossed over his misbehaviour (and she had survived Princess Margaret and various other renegade Royal uncles whose scandals had all been swept under the rug by a more compliant media.) The Queen’s head-in-the-clouds Moon Neptune in Leo was conjunct Andrew’s focal point Uranus so she would not view his rule-breaking in the way others would. Andrew’s Mars Venus in Capricorn fell on QE11’s Ascendant so perhaps his Randy Andy reputation provided light relief from her need to keep up a solid, stolid image. His Pluto fell in her 8th so he would exert a strong subconscious pull on her.

 Their relationship chart had a composite Moon Neptune opposition Sun which was rife with illusions and delusions. Plus a strong Pluto opposition Mars – bound by chains of power and control.

  In many ways her synastry with Charles was stronger with his Sun conjunct her Midheaven and her Saturn and his Moon exactly conjunct her Taurus Sun. But his Saturn fell in her 8th for a defensive emotional interface. Their relationship chart had a needs-space, differing-agendas composite Sun square Uranus, trine Saturn – with a fractious Mercury, Mars, Jupiter opposition Pluto.

47 thoughts on “Andrew – the Royal dilemma intensifies ++ Prince George chart ++ over-forgiving mother”

  1. Jeffrey Epstein is definitely going to haunt US and UK for a long time to come. There are reports of Meghan Markle links to Jeffrey Epstein, she also appears in Epstein Files, she has worked for him. It can be the reason why Harry and Andrew had a scuffle, and threw some punches at each other. This Epstein files are probably going to end Megan’s marriage to Harry since it is already under strain as I am writing this. Donald Trump is one character to watch, his secrets are coming out and this one of Epstein has the potential to end his presidency, with Neptune still travelling in his 8th sector for years to come. Donald Trump is battling to contain his secrets. Probably this Epstein files are the reason why Trump and Meghan don’t like each other so much, they have a history from way back.

    • @Tshele, the only thing that could end Trump’s presidency is if he dies because if Trump goes down for Epstien he will take the rest of the Republican party with him and Congressional Republicans won’t let that happen.

    • The book’s alleged scuffle between Prince Harry and Prince Andrew took place in 2013, which was well before Harry met Meghan in 2016.

  2. Marjorie, do you think that Andrew knows or is aware of the rumours that Porchester is his father? And might that influence his behaviour?

    I have also heard that Andrew once asked the Queen to disinherit Charles, and make him first in line. She of course refused. But for Andrew to even think there was a chance of this happening indicates that he picked up on his mother’s not very warm feeling towards his elder brother.

    • There’s a report in the Mail about Sarah today, taken from the Lownie book. Most unflattering about her capacity to spend large amounts of money with no regard for the effect that had on her bank balance and Librans tend to like the finer things of life. With her Libran Sun/Mars in the 11th conjunct Jeffrey Epstein’s Saturn/Neptune in his 11th and as transit Saturn moves towards her Aries Moon – both Sarah and Epstein have their moons at 5/6 degrees of Aries – I wonder if reality and consequences start to bite in April 2026 when Saturn reaches that point?

  4. Something that piqued my interest re our charts and how we live out the various patterns (or not) – successful musician Mikey Craig was born 15 February 1960, four days before Prince Andrew. No time, but he has a later Virgo Moon or very early Libra if a late birth. Sun in Aquarius. Other big patterns are the same.

    “Michael Emile Craig (born 15 February 1960) is a British musician and DJ[1] best known as the bassist of the pop/soul/new wave group Culture Club.” Wiki

    Culture Club’s huge hit, Do You Really Want to Hurt Me?, was everywhere in September 1982. A Solar Eclipse at 27 Cancer had opposed MC’s and PA’s Venus/Mars in Capricorn that July. Tr Jupiter in Scorpio passed from 6 to 11 degrees crossing glamorous, musical Neptune in their natal charts. Tr Uranus travelled from 0 to 1 Sagittarius then, and has now arrived at the opposition in Gemini. Both had experienced Uranus square Sun that year.

    September 1982 was when helicopter pilot Prince Andrew returned to the UK from the Falklands War to a hero’s welcome. He was slim (!), looked good in his uniform, and was said to have ‘matured’ because of his experiences. Ahem. Something called ‘Andymania’ swept the popular press. It’s tempting to say he’s never really recovered from that peak moment in his life. In the October, he went to Mustique on holiday with American Koo Stark, his ‘unsuitable’ and beautiful actress and photographer girlfriend. What might the Uranus in Gemini opposition to that gilded era stir up I wonder?

  5. I’m totally baffled as to why Andrew was the late Queen’s favourite. All accounts say that he was revoltingly behaved even as a child. And why would a mother have a favourite child anyway, since it’s pretty well known that favouritism tends to occur in dysfunctional or narcissistic families? She was a down-to-earth person and it appeared she didn’t suffer fools gladly either. Is there something in their composite astrology which gives more insight?

    • I assume most of his upbringing was with nannies so perhaps she only saw a certain side of him and/or misinterpreted it.

      His Leo Ascendant/Uranus is close to her Moon-Neptune – so maybe he ‘triggered’ a little childishness that got beyond her staid approach; and that’s why she gave him a pass.

      And his Scorpio moon is right on her MC-Saturn. Suggests some kind of guilt / responsibility.

      The other thing I suspect many people have got ‘wrong’ about the Queen is her “never explain, never complain” approach. She was Taurus Sun which hates to upset its status quo and Leo Moon-Neptune which will dislike confrontation. And the Saturn on MC won’t want to make a scene. So the whole “never explain, never complain” thing is her innate way of playing those out; not some carefully thought through philosophy.

      • Thanks GD. That makes a lot of sense. She was away quite a bit on royal duties when Charles and Anne were young children and I wonder if perhaps an underlying guilt from that meant that Andrew was over-indulged as compensation. Also the Queen didn’t receive the best mothering herself – her Moon/Neptune in Leo is tied into a T-Square on Saturn in Scorpio square Mars in Aquarius and the Moon also makes an opposition to Mars. I’m not sure how much truth there is to the recent mutterings in the tabloids that Margaret had foetal alcohol syndrome, but the Queen Mother certainly liked a dubonnet or 2 at midday and drank every day, while drumming into her daughter that duty came before everything. I’m not even sure it’s possible to be born into such a situation and remain unscarred. I look at poor George sometimes and get the sense that his future weighs heavily upon him.

        • On top of all that, Prince Charles was whipped away from her as soon as he was born for hours of tests. It’s not surprising their bonding was problematic. He subsequently endured an utterly bizarre, somewhat cruel and distant upbringing, becoming very attached to his nanny who btw looked remarkably like Camilla!

    • I wonder if some of the ‘differences’ in relationships have to do with the late Queen’s age, and the circumstances of the births? The then Princess Elizabeth was so young when she had Charles, and would have followed royal/aristocratic protocols in those early years. Doubtless her formidable mother would have insisted! Andrew came along ten years after Princess Anne, things were quite different, society was quite different, and by then she was Queen. By the time she had Edward, she’d moved on from old conventions, and Prince Philip was even present at the birth.

      Also, thinking about the synastery Marjorie describes, the actual births themselves may be a subtle factor?
      Charles’ birth was dramatic and difficult, following a very long labour:

      “Eventually Charles was born by a Caesarean section in a music room in Buckingham Palace which had been converted into a theatre. She was attended by Obstetricians Sir William Gilliatt and Sir John Peel, and also midwife Helen Rowe, who was thought to be present for all the births. Caesarean sections were also less common in the general public at that time; in the 1950s only around 3% were caesarean section. It would have been of some concern that the Queen required one.”

      And here’s Andrew’s Neptunian-sounding arrival:

      “The birth of the prince marked the first birth to a sitting monarch in 103 years. The baby was 7lb 3oz and born in the Belgian suite in Buckingham Palace. Once more it was believed the Queen used the “twilight sleep” drugs. Sir John Peel had become the lead Obstetrician, with John Brudenell assisting. The presence of the midwife Helen Rowe is also recorded in this news reel.” maternityandmidwifery.co.uk

      • My own mother has a love hate relationship with her firstborn who gave her issues at birth (80s). Is like anything that can go wrong at a natural birth went wrong causing her unnecessary pain and discomfort after that. I think she still hold that grudge (moon scorpio), won’t forget so easily. Whereas my birth was easy, being of smaller birth weight, driven comfortably to the hospital by my father in the late morning and add on with a little lottery win. Though she tried to balance her favour, my sibling grew up feeling mother was biased. And one day mother said this, since all the fingers in the hand are not equal length, how can love being equal. So I agreed with you on child birth experience for the mother and the favouritism shown.

  6. Andre refers to Prince George’s unconventional chart. Can someone please show me what it is? Is it not too soon to put any weight to it ? –
    after all he has many years ahead where ‘free will’ can come in to it.

    • Prince George has no planets in his 9th or 10th houses save Venus. He has an overloaded 8th house, which brings family unresolved issues over more than one generation. His MC is in Virgo, a discreet and unspectacular sign. His MC’s ruler, Mercury, is conjunct Mars and Jupiter in Cancer in the 8th, which brings wealth through inheritance. This stellium is in opposition to Pluto in the 2nd, which points to a great deal of emphasis on financial issues. He may have financial problems or controversies despite his family wealth.

      He also has the Sun in the 8th opposite his Moon, being born on a full moon. He will be magnetic and good-looking, will strike an emotional chord with the public and will be influential all his life, but this is not the chart of a king. Venus, his most elevated planet, is opposite Neptune and sextile his stellium in Cancer and Saturn in his 11th in Scorpio. He will be popular but may mostly be known for his love and social life, perhaps scandal. He reminds me of his great-great-great uncle Edward VIII, who abdicated for love.

      Uranus in the fifth square Pluto and the Cancer stellium could make him tabloid fodder and the subject of endless rumour about attention-seeking friends and lovers. The stable future of the monarchy he is clearly not. His 22 birthdate is the most tragic and fated. He should avoid drugs and alcohol, as well as compulsive partying and over-indulgence, at all costs.

      A play in New York, unfortunately titiled Prince Faggot, already depicts him as homosexual, which is very cruel for a child. Its author claims that photographs have shown his sexual orientation since age four. This is a small taste of what is to come. His life could be much about sex or related psychological matters.

      • Hello Andre. Often, I enjoy your posts. But this one seems odd. It’s disturbing, IMO. It’s as though you have a personal grudge against this innocent child. Comparing a child to an uncle who sided with the Nazis? The author of that play sounds very sick and demented. I wish I hadn’t learned of such horribleness. Ignorance would have been bliss.

        • Andre your analysis is riviting. Amelia, the comparison with Edward was abdicating for love. I agree, the play sounds revolting.

          • The play got a surprisingly good review in the New York Times, but I would be surprised if it were brought to the UK. It depicts Charlotte as the level-headed one. It was followed by at least one article asking what would happen if the next king were homosexual, which would not be a first in English history.

        • I am sorry if I inadvertently hurt your feelings about the monarchy. I actually have much sympathy for this young man who might suffer terribly and most unfairly. My Sagittarius Ascendant tends to be forthright.

      • He has Pluto Uranus Jupiter Mars Mercury and BML in a T square, so yes, there could be something disruptive or even unconventional during his life.

        • His rising sign is Scorpio. He is therfore sensitive to Pluto square Uranus, which is actually in the 4th on the cusp of the 5th. He will definitely disrupt his family. Charlotte has a royal chart. Saturn in Taurus square Pluto in 2028 is likely to make his inner questioning public. There is more to say but some other time.

      • There are several planets/asteroids in George’s 9th house. His sun at 29, and Venus at 0, IMO, points to someone who abdicate being King/first in line of the Monarchy. Charlotte will rule.

        • Charlotte I think would make an exceptional Queen. She reminds me of our late Queen Elizabth and the charismatic Lady Sarah Chatto.

  7. A genuine query from an astrology ignoramus — with the chart that he has, could Andrew have turned his negatives into positives and lived a more productive life without displaying his arrogance, entitlement and greed?

    Have you seen people with similarly negative charts who’ve turned the negatives into positives? Or was Andrew doomed to be an entitled AH from birth?

    Thanks!

    • Yes, but that needs supportive benefic big planets either in natal chart or during transit and a lot depends on the persons choices.
      Biggest planets like Saturn and slowest moving Pluto prove that it all in end depends on the path the human chooses and so does Jupiter- the only benefic without ill effects and Sun.

      I have seen that lone big planets also aren’t able to give optimum results as when they r supported by other big ones and benefics.

      Example; my mom and my aunt both have Neptune in 1h but my.mom likes to do nurse kind care and that’s her 1st instinct even for those who hurt her while my aunt with same moon sign, ends up trapping people to make money from them despite not spending a penny – that’s her 1st instinct but Saturn in my moms 8h, won’t let her astray.

      • Thanks Marjorie – interesting! And Nicole, Rachana, re: “Have you seen people with similarly negative charts who’ve turned the negatives into positives?…. “Yes, but that needs supportive benefic big planets either in natal chart or during transit……Jupiter- the only benefic without ill effects and Sun…..”

        Such a great question – it’s an ancient debate: is there free will or isn’t there? Can people really change? Traditional astrology is more hardnosed than modern psychology, more prescriptive. It’s difficult for negatives to transform into positives outright, even with supportive benefics. Astrology has qualifying factors in aspects, signs and houses and it is about potentials, but the potentials go both ways.

        Sure, people change, but usually it’s due to natural maturation or forced by life experience. How much of that is “real choice”, especially when facing circumstances beyond one’s control? The outer planets are interpreted as forcing change, but even the influence of the inner planets is not voluntary. Astrology is largely deterministic, which is an ongoing problem when we humans want free will.

        Most people are willing and even eager to adapt, even in difficult conditions, and we learn to cope with reality, like it or not. People can make better choices. However, very wealthy and privileged people have less external pressure to change because they don’t have to. Most severely damaged people can’t change. (Andrew may be both.)

        Which brings me to my rather long winded point: there are no entirely negative or entirely positive planets. It is a mistake to think there is such a thing as a benefic without any ill effects. Neither Jupiter nor the Sun are totally benefic. The Sun puts a focus on objects it shines upon and Jupiter expands whatever it touches. Jupiter goes big, for good or ill. Since the Babylonians that has been its nature. Jupiter in the 2nd house may bring more wealth, in the 5th it can be a big win at the casino, in the 8th it can be deeper in debt, or in the 6th it may mean health issues relating to excess, like diabetes (too much sweetness). It just depends.

        Planets don’t care about the functions they serve any more than the ocean cares about water. Planets are not people. Nobody knows why this astrology stuff seems to work. Scientists scoff and say actual planets are rocks or clouds of gas orbiting the sun – but event horizons are pretty weird too. Maybe someday the detractors and the astrologers will find common ‘ground’ to explain it.

    • Hi Nicole, my take on all of this is that it’s about consciousnesses, self-awareness, being willing to examine those parts of yourself that are ‘not very nice’ and seeing where the hurt comes from and then learning to take a step back from knee-jerk reactions of self defence. It’s about acknowledging the pain and then acting consciously instead of reacting unconsciously. It takes courage and it takes time and work. It really is a journey into the underworld of self. When you come out the other end you are still yourself but you have a different perspective and can cope much better with ‘triggers’. You think twice before attacking someone else as compensation for your own lack of self insight. So in that sense, change is certainly possible but it requires a willingness to examine self with all its dark corners. I speak from personal experience.

      • I forgot to add that astrology and the birthchart in particular leave us plenty of clues on where to start that process of self exploration. When you understand yourself you can understand others better and more easily discern what the real source of the friction is.

    • The imponderable question. Actress Greta Scacchi and murderer Charles Cullen are born close to the same birth date but with different Ascendants.
      Too much Jupiter and not enough Saturn come to mind for Andrew plus family/ancestral anchors from Neptune Moon in 4th and yod leg Mercury in 8th. But who knows – we had this conversation recently and it may come down to the ‘old soul’ who askes questions and is aware and therefore makes the most of potential. See previous post: Astrology – who gets a grip on life? 1st July 2025
      The older I get the more I am saddened by those who have never learned and end their lives bitter and regretful, never realizing they could have got a grip earlier on.
      Andrew’s yod focal point Uranus fascinates me since it could have led him down a totally different path and provided a useful service to society in fostering positive changes. Instead of which he went for the negative Uranian outlets of defiance, disruption and chaos-creation. [Oddly enough Princess Margaret also had Uranus in the 1st.]
      There were persistent rumours that Lord Porchester, Queen Elizabeth 11’s racing manager was Andrew’ father – and that came from racing circles long before it ever reached the public prints. Sounded unlikely but who knows?
      Intriguingly Porchester, 19 January 1924, had his Capricorn Sun conjunct Andrew’s Venus Mars and even more to the point Porchester’s Neptune in Leo on the focal point of a yod was conjunct Andrew’s 1st house Uranus plus other cross contacts – see chart.
      That may be partly an explanation for why he became so overblown – he certainly seems to have self-esteem issues which can result in the seeming opposite. But still no excuses. Lots of people have dysfunctional backgrounds and still make decent lives.

  8. 1960 vintage – seems he’s both at this point.

    The idea that any changes will have to come from outside sends a shudder…every clunk along the way, and I’m sure I’m to blame ( while somehow simultaneously blaming someone else!) …that can’t be right, but the axis of shame and blame is one I’d like to astrologically unpack.

  9. There is an old rumour that Andrew is not the son of Philip, but of Lord Porchester. Rumour or no rumour, Andrew and ‘Porchey’ have some interesting conjunctions in their synastry. On the other hand, the mere possibility of being an outsider in the family can have a strong psychological impact. However, this does not absolve Andrew of the responsibility of having become a repulsive human being.

  10. This is all part of the decline and fall of the House of Windsor. To me, the intense rivalry between Harry and William will only grow for a final act after the latter becomes king because it is unresolved. In addition, if young Pirnce George is as unconventional as his chart suggests, Andrew will be a sideshow. This does not bode well for the survival of the monarchy.

  11. “A femme Fatale”….an attractive, seductive woman, especially one who is likely to
    cause distress to a man who becomes involved with with her.
    Solar Return Moon conj SR BML square Pluto. SR Moon-SR BML (femme fatale) quincunx
    SR Asc.

  12. Andrew was born during a Saturn Hour. This hour of birth would repeat itself every 7 years.
    Using 7 planets and the Chaldean order of planets with each planet ruling one year of life,
    we get……0 years, Saturn,1960; 7 years, Saturn, 14 years, Saturn……49 Saturn;
    56 Saturn; 65 years Saturn
    Chaldean order is ….Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon….then 7 yrs
    later the cycle repeats.
    Andrew is 65 yrs old, and again as at birth he is in a Saturn year. In his natal chart he
    he has Saturn, ruling 6th injury to others, and 7 relationships on his 6th cusp opposing
    natal BML on 12th cusp…..”Draining relationships with authority figures.” and “Putting down females, workers, with dark comments.”
    This is echoed in his current Solar Return…..SR BML conj SR Moon…..”Dark comments
    towards women in his life.”

    • Hi Martha, wondering how many times does a Saturn hour appear within a 24 hour natal chart? And for how long? Do the other planets also have specific times allotted to them? Thanks, I find it intriguing, would love to find out more about it.

      • “https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_hours”

        Just remove the quotation marks, paste, and hit Enter in your browser.

        To see your current hour, go to Astro-Seek or Drik Panchang (Hora section) – just make sure you specify your location, on which the planetary, and any other unequal hours, are dependent upon!

        • Thanks El Aznar – I did find my way there by googling – turns out I was born in an hour of Venus – LOL not what I was expecting!

  13. Marjorie you missed your vocation as FCO Cabinet Sec!!!! “even years after he has departed for warmer climes…..” lol!
    Vox pops I hear around the place are moving from royalty neutrality towards anti at this point. Monarchy used to be the place for antiques not antics.

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