Luigi Mangione arrested for the shooting of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson appears to have been born 6 May 1998 in Pennsylvania. Lauded by some as a folk hero for standing up against an avaricious health care system, he has been condemned by others. His writings glorified Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, a domestic terrorist who believed that killing was justifiable in pursuit of his campaign against advancing technology and the destruction of the natural environment.
Mangione’s grandfather Nicholas, 17 February 1925, was an Italian immigrant who lived the American dream to become rich but was also apparently prone to lash out against the system.
Birth data being sound, Luigi is a volatile and aggressively stubborn Sun Mars in Taurus square Uranus in Aquarius. What was notable at the killing was his Solar Arc Uranus conjunct his South Node in Pisces with his Progressed Mars moving to square his South Node.
His grandfather Nicholas was a Sun Aquarius opposition Neptune with Mercury Venus in Aquarius square a hard-headed Mars in Taurus opposition Saturn in Scorpio. So some similarities.
Ted Kaczynski, 22 May 1942 4pm Chicago, Illinois, weas a highly-strung Sun, Uranus, Saturn in Gemini and also had his South Node in Pisces close to Luigi’s. A Pisces South Node tends to bring an overdose of gloom about problems and life’s sorrows with an over developed sense of sympathy for suffering. So he may have been driven like Kaczynski by the right ideas but used the wrong methods to publicise them.
Brian Thompson’s flamboyant Mars in Leo clashed with Luigi’s angry Mars Sun in Taurus; and his evasive Neptune was conjunct Luigi’s Pluto. Both oddly had Jupiter in Pisces.
The killing has caught the public imagination at a time when feelings and paranoia are running high. But whether it is significant as a history-changing moment is questionable. May be just a sad, short-fused boy with serious back problems interfering with his life and destabilising his mental balance finds a target for his rage. In a country where violence and guns are prevalent and seen as a viable option.
It is reported that his girlfriend (Maggioni’s) has been detained as an accomplice, she is apparently expecting a baby, how this relates to the current planets is baffling, perhaps as Marjorie explains his stubborn view of the world blinded him of any consequences affecting those nearest to him. My apologies for grammar and punctuation mistakes.
have people been bashing you over typos? ur ok! really!
Marjorie, I also see SA Pluto=Venus in orb in young Mangione’s chart. With these rulers of his Scorpio IC and Taurus MC-Sun-Mars suggesting eventful individual timing, it’s easy to imagine a deep swell of feelings, obsession, or resentment focused on ‘executing’ an extreme or harmful act.
Especially now, unfortunately, triggered and emboldened with Leo Mars momentum, as it transited to a trine with his natal Sagittarius Pluto on December 4.
Luigi Mangione Neptune/Uranus midpoint is sextile his Pluto. Perhaps either a political motive or a need to avenge a group of people who he perceives as being abused. His Pluto is in Scorpio in his 4th, the house of family and parents. Scorpio rules the 8th house – other people’s money. He came from a wealthy neighbourhood. Nice home. Neptune/Uranus in the 6th house of work and health, this may have given him a sense of injustice or guilt in having something others did not have? His Pluto/Saturn midpoint is circa 17 degrees of Aquarius. Uranus in Aquarius the energy would emphasise the Aquarian need to identify with a group. Maybe go against authority? Neptune would give the sense of caring for that group. Saturn can signify the dominant parent. As he also has Mars/Sun conjunction in Taurus, with Taurus ruling the throat/ voice and his personal money. Injustice and guilt may have his primary drive?
Kaczynski suffers a common symptom of schizophrenia known as anosognosia, a symptom experienced in other brain disorders such as strokes. “Anosognosia” in layman’s terms means that he did not have the capacity to recognize his own illness and thus could not access treatment voluntarily. If you do not know you have a disease, you do not seek treatment for it.
Brevik’s pychiatric report states that he does not suffer from schizophrenia.
United healthcare has caused the death of many people- so just bc it’s not in the headlines is no excuse, we have become comfortable with the uncomfortable. This is not sad bc someone died at the hands of a young man who acted boldly in broad daylight. Thousands of people have used the comments sections on articles and the UHC website which had to be shut down to share their horror stories regarding having their claims denied for truly heartbreaking pain and diagnosis. What is sad is that Americans put up with this healthcare system when it is truly hurting so many lives. Situations where common sense changes aren’t enacted so often end in someone making a big statement. When we have spent days calling our insurance companies, talking to one dept then another then back to the first dept then accidentally’ being hung up for the third time, when we have voted and lost… you need not agree that it was morally right, but when nothing else works- this is often what you see. Ignore it at your own peril, or perhaps Americans will get back on their screens and feel helpless regarding their own or their loved ones pain and suffering. We have been taught to do so.
Mangione made a lot of sloppy mistakes—mercury retrograde done him in. First, he should never have lowered his mask at the flirty request of the hostel clerk–that image was seen ’round the world. He dropped his guard after the shooting, ending up at an Altoona PA MacDonald’s, where, as a lone male patron in mask and hooded jacket, he was way too conspicuous…..probably feeling safe and relaxed in an obscure location hundreds of miles from the crime scene. Once again, he lowered his mask–while eating. Being a tech wizard, he should have realized that cameras are everywhere in this day and age. Plus, the internet has become the greatest sleuth on the planet. There’s literally no escaping hi-tech.
‘ In a country where violence and guns are prevalent and seen as a viable option.’ And promoted and romanticised in nearly every Hollywood movie or TV show (except maybe comedy ones) as the viable option consistently. (Yeah, I know I shouldn’t begin a sentence with ‘And’) 🙂
I have always liked starting sentences even paragraphs with And and But – used to drive tutors nuts.
Some series I watch as mindless entertainment – Hawaii 5 0, NCIS LA et and such are horrifically violent – and yet accepted as normal.
🙂 that was for those who always like to mention how terrible the grammer is on this site, as if we are in English class …. lol
Ha! Well, if it’s good enough for Shakespeare, it’s good enough for everyone.
“Writers have opened sentences with and since the Old English period. Chaucer did it. So did Malory, Shakespeare, the translators of the King James Version of the Bible, and many others. And authors have been starting sentences with but since the Middle Ages.”
Starting Sentences with And or But – Oxford Academic
I start sentences with And. Apologies to the grammer overlords.
Well! You failed to capitalize the first word in your sentence! LOL
I’ll just run for cover then
@Jennifer and Marjorie, As a professional writer, I’ve learnt that good writing often breaks “the rules.”
I too start sentences with “and” and “but,” if the word adds to the effectiveness of the point I’m making or improves the rhythm of my prose.
What does the astrology say about United HealthCare? Will there be any impact to its business?
See post below
Thanks for doing this Marjorie. I agree that his actions ultimately will not result in the changes he thought he would bring about by doing this and vigilantism is not the way but I have read his statement and some of the conclusions he reaches are reasonable. But instead of the focus being on the thousands who died through having esstential medical aid refused by this company it’s on him. Unitedhealth’s parent company is currently part of the cabal of private companies trying to privatise the NHS by the back door but again there is no media focus on that either, this company used an AI that wrongly refuses 90% of claims again barely any reporting on it.
He has a more fire/earth chart than anything, I don’t see him as an ideologue living in his head like the unibomber. I do think that serious chronic pain and the medication involved affected how he saw things.
It’s a very sad story. Jen, the U.S. system can be harsh, but there is such a thing as “jury nullification,” and his lawyer is refusing extradition and having him plead “not guilty,” so perhaps will hold out for a jury trial. So far, Luigi Mangione appears to be a very sympathetic character, and his experiences with pain and U.S. health insurance are ones most Americans can relate to. He might well get off, or be judged not guilty by reason of insanity; it’s happened plenty of times before.
In the astrology of these men, is there anything that specifically indicates brilliance that morphs into madness, possibly fueled by anger? Ted Kaczynski was a mathematical genius who went to Harvard on a scholarship at age 16 and later earned a Ph.D. from the University of Michigan. I have no idea if Luigi Mangione is technically a genius, but he is at least a very bright and accomplished young man who excelled at Penn, one of the top schools in the country in mathematics and computer science, where he ultimately earned a master’s degree in record time. I wonder if “aggressively stubborn” in another context might just be “hyper-focused”?
Kaczynski’s surviving brother has already been contacted by reporters about this case, and has said that his brother, while brilliant, was a very angry and disturbed man whose ideas were “like a virus,” and that he sincerely hopes Luigi Mangione wasn’t influenced by them.
I have no expertise in this area, but I understand that schizophrenia tends to present itself in young men during their twenties, and I have a perception that perhaps it is more likely to affect this type of brilliant mathematical mind. Is this a tendency that can be pinpointed astrologically?
He also seems to have put a spell on a whole slew of people around the world given his looks. He seemed to have the perfect triad: handsomeness, brain, and wealth / origins / family. I wonder if it is some kind of Neptune casting the magic? Newspapers mention other similar cases, such as Jeremy “the hot felon” Meeks e.g.
I have to say the whole scenario is odd. Mangione was clearly organised enough to plan the assassination, carry out the murder and then escape the scene of the crime yet he was then rather tamely caught still in possession of the weapon and carrying a hand written manifesto. I think there are shades of Anders Breivik here yet another manifesto killer who had a Virgo north node and Pisces south node
Yes. And, also, the printing of a gun !
The gun was not “printed” by him. It was deemed a ghost gun, assembled from several pcs easily put together, like Legos.
Ok. Do these sort of guns get sold at gun shops ?
What exactly is odd in your view?
I mean like Breivik he seems to have meticulously planned the killing but then essentially just gave himself up at the end to the authorities with no fight even though he had a gun. This is different from many of the high school type shooters who often tend to wind up effectively committing suicide at the hands of law enforcement.
From the descriptions of the event, his handgun jammed repeatedly. Either the ammo was improperly suited for the gun…or else he had no experience of the weapon’s upkick as it fired. Also, how could he miss being so close and shoot the target in the leg?
Definitely he was unfamiliar with the weapon. With my 1st 9mm, I had the same kinds of problems with “jamming” – the empty casings would not eject properly and would jam up.
Definitely using a cannon for shooting squirrels.
Interestingly Breivik also had a Sagittarius Neptune square his Nodes just like Mangione.
Apologies that should read Breivik had a Sagittarius Neptune square his nodes and sextile his Pluto while Mangione had Pluto square his nodes sextile his Neptune.
As mentioned on the other thread on this topic both Mangione’s Pluto and Thompson’s Neptune were exactly conjunct the 7 Sagittarius Ascendant in the chart for the shooting.
He also seems to have a duet, Mercury conjunct Saturn, two planets just connected to each other and no other planets. And I guess that is the aspect of him being brainy, clever, and so academically successful.
Well, he forgot to wear gloves and he left the top half of his face uncovered so we knew from the start that it wasn’t a professional hit.
Now we’re finding out that the authorities found his fingerprints at the scene of the crime.
Oh well.
I don’t think I came upon the descriptions of him as volatile and stubborn. From what I’ve seen I think he was described as gregarious, approachable, not at all snobby, greatest at pickup lines, a leader, clever, bright, handsome, from a well-to-do family, very interested in fitness (that Virgo Moon and North Node calling). Maybe one description found him to be quiet and something like that.
He didn’t just suffer from spondylolisthesis from all the way back to his childhood, he also started to be really afflicted by brain fog and one other phenomenon I am now forgetting after one hazing week of his fraternity, a so-called hell week. He was bothered that no doctor seemed to have shown enough attention to that part. He also suffered worsening of his grades after that.
Oh that Pisces South Node. You describe it accurately. Took me years to get over to that north Node in Virgo. Schulmans books were a big help.
Taurus is supposed to learn how to be Serene and enjoy the natural world and enjoy being at home on the planet. It is very sad when someone so bright with all the advantages goes off the rails like that.
The really sad thing is the almost certain next 60 years this young ‘un will spend in the American prison system. Hard to see someone arguing him off on the basis of a bad back. Having said that, I’ve had sciatica and certainly felt the impact of that on my equilibrium. Curiously, The
Rainmaker was on tv last night, a film
about a young lawyer fighting on behalf of a client refused a claim by health insurance. In the end, that company collapsed. Be interesting once this trial starts, what comes out for. UHC.
From what I’ve read, his family is not short of money so why such rage against an insurance company CEO? I think the “really sad thing” is that he has killed a man! And another sad thing is the ease with which weapons are available in America. Surely nobody with such rage/mental condition should be wandering the streets?
You are correct. It is really sad that the only way he could express what ever was going on for him was through violence.
I think there was something else about one of his relatives being treated badly by an insurer. Apart from Luigi’s own health problems. And they seemed to have included the Lyme disease, sleep deprivation, severe brain fog, and inadequate social, amorous and sexual life after the worsening of his spine condition.
Thank you for this, Marjorie. And for tying in the other charts. I think you hit the nail on the head in the way you describe Luigi. As for the Unabomber, I had no idea he had all that Gemini. Maybe it was easy for him to advocate for the death of others because he lived so much in his head.
P.S., I often will type in my Google search:
John Doe natal chart
Then I will check all the suggestions that
Google provides. That is how I found the
specific birth time data for Luigi Mangione.
According to Starseedps on Instagram:
12:13 PM birthtime for Luigi Mangione,
Towson, Maryland.
May 6, 1998
I did correct myself for Towson being the apparent birth town, but somehow that comment was gone in that other section?
I guess Leo ascendant would fit – he had really thick hair.