Contemplating the UK’s about-to-self-destruct-financial -services industry on Brexit, a thought struck me. Pluto moved into Capricorn in 2008 whose purpose is to bring about a complete transformation of the way governments are run and money is handled at a macro-economic level.
The Lehman Brothers/sub-prime/banking collapse happened in 2007/08, sending countries globally into a downward spiral for a few years. But the banksters didn’t end up in prison, power-hosed out of the Augean stables. They kept their bonuses, prospered and the taxpayers took the pain.
Pluto is around till 2024 and its action, as anyone who has suffered under its yoke knows, is very slow and results only come after considerable angst. It razes old structures down to ashes, leaving devastation, and only then can new growth begin. Transformation is a scary process which sweeps away old certainties and leaves what feels like a vacuum before the rebuild starts. You have to die symbolically before you can be reborn.
The UK was always going to be more at risk in this operation since it is heavily dependent on the financial sector – its industrial and manufacturing capacity having been decimated during Maggie Thatcher’s time. Until recently it was known as the financial capital of the world.
So it may be that the UK is unwittingly leading the field into the next stage of Pluto’s deconstruction. Tearing down the old, tossing what was once great (for some) onto the scrapheap. Hopefully in preparation for making the wholesale changes that are necessary. Don’t ask me how!
Given that Brexit was as much a vote against the political establishments in Westminster and Brussels as anything, it is also the other facet of Pluto in Capricorn. Of which, to a ludicrous extent, Trump is also an example and the far-left and far-right uprisings all over Europe. All expressions of the mainstream kicking against an outdated status quo.
Seen in the broader context of Pluto in Capricorn, it begins to make more sense. Which isn’t to say it will be a) be easy; or b) turn out well. Russia tried for Perestroika and fell back into the bad old ways; Egypt went for revolution and got landed with a military dictator. Pluto’s power hungry ways are not easily diverted.
I don’t use Ingress charts much, but for what it’s worth. The Pluto Ingress of 2008 set for London has the tr Neptune square tr Saturn hitting on the MC exactly now. With a focal point Mars in the 8th square a Moon opposition a 4th house Uranus – the effect will be financial and governmental with a highly rebellious, angry population. Three planets in the 2nd also amplify the financial effect.
Set for Brussels, the midheaven moves on 5 degrees which will catch the tr Saturn square later this year, but not get the tr Neptune opposition MC until 2019.It’s still financial though less markedly so; but with an even more restive domestic population since Uranus is within a degree conjunct the IC.
Washington, DC, gets a different slant with the emphasised focal point Mars on the MC and less domestic unrest.
Along the way of Pluto’s majestic and destructive sweep through Capricorn we have Uranus moving into materialistic Taurus in 2018 for seven years though never actually making the trine to Pluto. More pertinently there is the Saturn Pluto conjunction of 2019/2020. Saturn Pluto is a winter phase, repressive, a bringer of hardship. But it is joined in 2020 by Jupiter in Capricorn which attracts material bounty.
The benefits of Pluto in Capricorn may only turn up very late in the game.
Elaine, You’re right. Britain has survived through horrors and bounced back. And has several hundred years of an established democracy which grew organically, so there is more resilience than countries which came out of autocratic monarchies and fell into dictatorships. But it is always the poorest who suffer most through times of transition. And since NO ONE has seen fit to plan this one, it doesn’t exactly fill me full of glee.
Thank you for the positivity in your post. I actually find your global examples heartening, Russia and Egypt. Because, sadly, their histories point in the direction of their current realities. Russia was very late in freeing their serfs, kept an absolute monarchy (not a constitutional one) and so was primed to move straight into a dictator. They had no template for freedom. Nothing to fall back on. So they just fell.
England has a history of democracy, of being sensible and weathering storms other nations would wither at the sight of. You have suffered in the world wars, with rationing and bombing, a desolate 70s with miner strikes, 3 day work week, blackouts! And you’ve persevered. You are a practical, reliable, hardworking people. And one of the largest economies in the world! Iceland is ready to trade with you. Others will follow.
Listen to Melvyn King (former head of the bank of England) if you won’t listen to me. He believes in your country. Others will too.
I actually voted to remain in the EU referendum, as Britain will lose a lot if it left the EU.
But the leave vote won, majority in England and Wales. Scotland and Northen Ireland voted to remain, so the country divided diminshing Britain’s global power.
I also predict that the pound will crash but just don’t know when, as London is a financial city and is the only thing that is keeping the country having global power besides the EU.
Jo, The problem is that those who felt ill-done to (quite justifiably) and reckoned they had nothing to lose by giving a two-fingers up to the establishment, actually have quite a lot to lose. Jobs for one thing. And public services which can’t be paid for with a tottering economy will be cut even further back.
It was what happened with Perestroika in Russia. The populace got giddy with the excitement of freedom, then discovered they had lost the certainties of the old set- up, and wanted to backtrack.
Change is a three part process. A. Tear down the old. B. Survive through the transition. C. Only if the second is negotiated/endured/survived through can the rebuild begin. And sometimes it can’t, so you end up with the worst of all possible worlds, either long term or for a considerable period – which is a period of devastation, into which chaos and anarchy can step to fill the space.
The Vote Leave campaigners were Pollyannas who naively and arrogantly thought the EU would fall at their feet with pleas to stay and/or offer a magnanimous going-away set of conditions. Clearly that isn’t going to happen.
It reminds me of the story of a woman who when she was married thought her husband was scrambled eggs. Only when he died, did she realise he’d been caviar. There is a hideous amount wrong with the EU, but it gave the UK a seat at the table, access to a huge market at favourable terms, and extra leverage globally in other places like the UN Security Council. Outside there is a serious risk of becoming just another tiddly nation on the periphery.
Yes, Marjorie, this is what I feel is happening. With so much turmoil happening RIGHT NOW on the planet with very similar patterns means this frightening change is happening for a reason, and the right reason. We just can’t see it from this scary view point we are in. We can’t see the wood for the trees, as the old saying goes.
We need to fundamentally understand why what has happened, has happened. I read a really good article by blogger Helen Cox, which explained the result may well be because of a systematic failure of politicians, home and abroad, for years, who do not listen to most of the people in areas they don’t fund much, such as Northern parts of England. We’ve been screaming for years to be heard and it’s always fallen on deaf ears – What the referendum did, unknowingly, was give a platform to the anger and frustration of many, who shouted and it turned into a roar that deafened. Leaving many sitting shell shocked, even the leavers, because they never believed they’d be heard, and asking what the hell just happened?! I mean, the one sentence that kept popping up after the result from the leave voters was, ‘Well, I didn’t think we’d win anyway.’ This anger, feeling stuck, shock and frustration at not being heard from the remain voters after the result, is what MANY have felt for decades! The North doesn’t see much benefit from either the EU or the native government’s funding coffers. It’s forgotten about. Look what the EU are doing to Greece, reducing it’s economy to a sinkhole, unemployment through the roof. That’s like sitting by watching a big corporate boss bully an employer into submission while he pats me on the back and promotes me. Just because I get a leg up in life, is it moral to sit back and watch somebody else be degraded in such a way, even if it doesn’t affect my own back yard? I think it’s disgusting that the EU can happily sit by in their Gold Palaces funded in its millions by others, and watch Greece beg for handouts on it’s knees and be stripped of integrity, trying their best to feed themselves or put a roof over their heads and wonder where the next euro will come in to help get them back on their feet. It’s compounded by the influx of immigrants because the country is in no healthy position to help sort the problem. It really upsets me to the point of tears that it is allowed to be done and classed as some kind of social progress in action. If an organization can siphon its funding off into a countries main capital/big cities and ignore everybody else around it apart from a few scraps thrown at them every now and then, then it’s a BROKEN model. It is the enemy. It allows tiny sections of society to swell and bloat with concentrated wealth and the vast majority of a country to die on the vine, so to speak. Because of this arrogance from the EU in turning their backs on a huge silent majority, I feel there are more countries to come who are going to turn their backs on the EU; unemployment is rising in Southern Italy and in Spain, no funding or opportunities are happening to make them feel they are part of a supposedly wonderful system. They are not being taken care of or being listened to! If a referendum takes place in these EU countries – will the same deafening roar not be heard as it has here? Another thing, if the vote here was ignored or overturned (which would be another instance of anti-democracy), do you not fear that the far-right parties, such as UKIP, BNP, and the National Front, will begin to swell it’s ranks and take a massive foothold in our politics? That’ll really change the face of our country in the future, something we do NOT want! It’s already happening in a couple of EU countries BEFORE any referendums happen. Politicians already do whatever they can to benefit themselves, we don’t need to add thugs to the list that endorse certain sections of society to live in fear.
So, after that long ramble, I really do HOPE Pluto has come in with his big old size 10’s to make his presence known and will clear the decks for the betterment of humanity and societies in the future. History shows we actually do evolve slowly over time and in the right direction even when we have big, nasty events blocking our way. It’s all going to feel, without a doubt, like it’s a losing battle BECAUSE we and the ruling elite have been living in a way that is of no real benefit but to the chosen few at the top. We will be forced to live differently, but over time it will be for the betterment of our evolution. It’s frightening because as of this very second in time, we don’t know how. Scary as it is, it is happening for a very good reason. Idil Ahmed said, ‘You know great things are coming when everything seems to be going wrong. Old energy is clearing out for new energy to enter. Be patient!’