White House fireworks – all heat, no light ++ who has paid most for Ukraine

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1. This might have passed people by but the Republican Party chart for July to September this year is in the same place it was during the Watergate scandal.

   • @Calvin
     Interesting, what is the main astrology for the period please.

     • The Saturn-Neptune conjunction will then be as close as it gets before its exactitude in February 2026.

2. “https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn5220x56pqt” …Hot off the internet…

   Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky tells the BBC that Ukraine remains ready to sign a rare minerals deal with the US following his heated confrontation with Donald Trump on Friday

   Speaking to the press before his return to Ukraine, he also addresses reports about a proposed one-month truce “in the air, at sea”

3. ATTENTION:

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   • Dear Marjorie, I apologise if I let my heart rule my head in my postings. I should have phrased my statements as questions to ponder and refer to Messrs Putin and Trump. After all they are the heads of state of their respective countries whatever I may or may not think of them in private.

     • ‘and leave America out of the negotiations’ rather than ‘boot them out’

       • and ‘complacent’ rather than ‘cocky’ Again many apologies

   • I understand your frustration. It’s a tricky balance, you want engagement but not chaos. Tricky because of the fast moving nature of current affairs, and fast paced environments tend to attract snap reactions. I wonder if you’ve throught about slowing things down just enough to filter out impulsive rants while keeping the good discussions. Small friction points (delays, prompts, reminders) could make a difference without requiring constant moderation. What comment management plugins do you have?

     You could for example add a nudge to self-moderate before commenting, inserting this into comments.php should hopefully work:
     Reminder: Please remember this is NOT a political chat site. It is astrology or background facts only. Please ensure your comment contributes meaningful discussion to the topic. Opinions and irrelevant comments may be removed.

   • Thanks for publishing how much each country has paid. Some countries like Denmark pay a lot more than we do in the UK.

4. My own take on this was that Zelensky was quite right to say no. It was obvious to me that Trump had already agreed to Putin’s request to not give in to Zelensky’s insistence on security. A Hollywood mogul once said, ‘A verbal contract ain’t worth the paper it’s written on.’ Taking Trump’s word that it would get covered in the future, would have been idiotic. And why would Zelensky trust Putin if he had reneged on 25 previous cease fire agreements?

   I thought the way that Trump, Vance and Rubio behaved was shameful! And while it might have pleased the majority of the electorate, it disgusted his allies and many people around the world. A negotiator is not supposed to be so partisan. And he is not supposed to humiliate another Head of State so publicly.

   Vance is so full of himself making out that the way that conscripts were treated in the Ukraine wouldn’t happen in the USA. Which given what happened to draft dodgers during the Vietnam Conflict disproves that assumption. While time is a great healer, I can’t imagine anyone is going to want to deal with Trump, Vance or Rubio anywhere in America and certainly not in front of the press.

5. You have left Germany out of your analysis. Chancellor Merz has made it clear that Europe will have to see to their own defence. Does this mean that France and Germany form the backbone of a new European defence pact? Would everybody be happy with a new rearmed Germany? The Quai d’Orsay must think their prayers have been answered. A rerun of the Iron and Steel pact and the Treaty of Rome with both the US and UK completely sidelined.

   • And I forgot Europe has a new colony in what’s left of the Ukraine. Perhaps, the EU will take over the trade treaty with the Ukraine and boot America out of the negotiations.

     If I was Putin or Trump I would not be so cocky.

     In addition would Europe cosy up to Beijing and promote the return of Hǎishēnwǎi to China?

     • At the moment it is just France and the UK. Merz has ordered all car manufacturers to start making tanks.

   • @patritius, realistically speaking Germany doesn’t have a functioning military, they need years and tens of billions to get up to speed. Metz understands that, and I think is more grateful letting France and the UK lead the current process.

     Nordic Countries, Baltics, and The Netherlands also have very good relationships with the British. For instance, even before Finland and Sweden NATO application, we participated to the UK led JEF initiative, and British troops regularly exercised with ours.

6. Musk has called for the US to leave NATO and the United Nations… next step.

   • @Luis Godinho, Elon is, fortunately for us, willfully ignorant of international law and treaties. I say “fortunately”, because this has and will land him into a serious trouble when trying to meddle with international affairs. Withdrawing from NATO would require 2/3 of the Senate vote, and that’s not going to happen now.

     The UN, on the other hand, doesn’t recognize unilateral withdrawl at all. Therefore, in “leaving” the US would basically just give up their place in Security Council and veto rights in resolutions. A thing the Trump Administration can’t do without throwing Israel under the bus, given the US almost exclusively vetoes resolutions on Israel-Palestine conflict.

     Overall, I would say Elon being an anti-Semite will be a big part of him eventually falling out with Trump. This was Steve Bannon’s issue as well. They both might profess support for Israel, but hold deep seated conspiracy ridden hatred towards Jewish people. Many people around Trump will not tolerate that, and this will lead to inner clash.

   • After Trump tried to exit NATO last time Congress passed legislation requiring a two-thirds vote of the Senate or an Act of Congress to withdraw. However, the law is not air-tight and there are ways Trump can sabotage US membership in NATO, according to policy experts.

     Ironically, the current Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, who has noticeably gained considerable weight lately, perhaps a sign of his emotional distress at betraying his apparently “former” beliefs and country, co-sponsored that bi-partisan legislation with Democratic Maryland Senator Chris Van Hollen. Rubio has sold himself out, as have so many other spineless Republicans.

7. Ukraine’s stellium in late Leo will pick up the Uranus square in April/May as will Zelensky’s Saturn and Trump’s Mars and Ascendant – so trouble ahead for all parties. In addition to the SA Neptune conj, to his Moon, Trump also has tr Saturn squaring both his Sun and Moon and conj his Sun/Moon midpoint over the next month a rather depressing and wearying line up.

   • But Ukraine’s troubles might be much, much more lasting than some transits suggest. What if 25 % of its territory permanently gets to be under the control of another country and if that 25 % is its richest-in-resources part?

     What if another part of its riches get to go to paying off debt and interest on it? Today the UK gave Ukraine a loan of either $2 or $3 billion (saw both sums and don’t know which one is right).

     What if a huge chunk of population, which now might be living off benefits in EU countries, never goes back into the mess that awaits them?

     Then you have the issue of courts and war crimes on both sides, that will take decades to solve, if at all they begin to be solved at one point.

     And the bad blood from all the carnage that will mark its future for centuries to come.

     • “What if a huge chunk of population, which now might be living off benefits in EU countries, never goes back into the mess that awaits them?”

       Dangerous wording here. Vast majority of Ukrainians in the EU now work, because their “temporary protection” status allows it. My daughter had two Ukrainian refugee classmates for a while. One of them, from Odessa, is already gone, they decided return last Summer. The other one is from Kharkiv and a native Russian speaker, but for very obvious reasons not returning now. This classmate is also a friends with my daughter, and my daughter once told me she found it strange her friend always stretched her parents were here to work. I told my daughter that I think it’s important for their self-respect. Ukrainians value hard work, and these people teally want to show they contribute.

       I also think you underestimate how stoic and brave Ukrainians are. Stalin starved from 3 to 14 million of them to death during Holodomor. Just 6 years later, when Russia invaded Finland, they sent Ukrainian boys to literally freeze to death here. They lost people on Maidan Square 2013 and the Eastern part has been a battlefield since 2014. Yet they not only persist, but I have people constantly telling me how positively surprised they were visiting many parts of the country 10 or so years leading to the War.

       • Solaia,

         Don’t be triggered. The wording is very careful. It contains the word ‘might’. No one ever doubted the diligence of the Ukrainian people and their knowledge. The brain drain experienced because of the war will leave a lasting damage in the country.

         If these people get to rebuild their lives in much more prosperous societies, they are unlikely to go back to worse conditions.

         • @El Aznar, I am not triggered, and think you are completely bona fide, but these arguments of “Ukrainians taking social security and not wanting to leave” have started circulating in more Trumpy right wing circles in Europe in the couple of last months.

           And of course, there will be Ukrainians who won’t want to leave which ever place they are currently residing at, but that’s all right, and part of the free circulation WHEN they will become integrated to the EU. Brain drain, or immigration in general, isn’t a new issue for Ukraine. When they gained independence, there were 56 million people living in the country. Before the war, they were down to 44 million. The salaries were so low teachers and even doctors would come to do agricultural work during their summer holidays. I remember how, during Brexit, they realized Britain was short of workers, and someone suggested they should call school kids to pick strawberries as they did in the 1980’s. Now, my mother was from “the strawberry capital” of Finland, and through that I knew this work was now mostly done by Ukranian and Belarus adults who could pick three times your average teen managed in an hour.

           That said, the EU leaders are aware on how low salaries for capable professionals is an issue in Ukraine and this is why funds send to Ukraine are unallocated. They feel Ukraine has potential to rebuild stronger, given the positive development after 2014. Their civil society has taken huge leaps, which is of course part of the reason, if not the reason, Putin invaded. So many Russians have deep ties to Ukraine they couldn’t risk a country to become a thriving democracy.

     • Hi El Aznar – just to say that the Ukrainian refugees I’ve personally encountered here in the UK, staying with friends of mine (two different households) have been very hard working. The grandmother of one family I’ve met here, for example, was just amazing, since she spoke very little English. But she just went out on foot, asking about work, and got a job in a bakery within a week!

       I think returning will be hard for families with children at school here now. But many want to go home to their beautiful country – even though so much has been destroyed. Two older adults I’ve known have already returned, with determination to carry on. As Solaia says, they tend to be stoic and brave people, and I am filled with admiration for them.

     • The repayment of the UK loans to the Ukraine will come out of Russian funds frozen in UK accounts.

8. A vedic astrologer said the other day that Zelensky has a villain astro chart and will lose vs putin
   I couldnt believe it, it was not what i thought

   • Certain astrologers in certain countries with economic interests in Russia may tailor their forecasts with that in mind. I’ve noticed this as slightly more than a coincidence.

     • Ha, yes I was going to say the same thing. Btw, I think the Royals have played a smart move meeting with Zelenskyy.
       They can’t officially cancel Trumps visit without a massive diplomatic fallout. But they can invite and sing praises for Zelenskyy.

       • Virgoflake:

         There may be more to this move than it’s apparent. You may want to look for this interview in YouTube. It’s called
         Alex Krainer: The Hidden Wars Ukraine’s Minerals and Global Power Plays

         Sorry, if I put the link, this may not get posted.

         • than is apparent.

           Sorry for the typos.
           My keyboard just did, and I’m dictating.

9. Just to reiterate what I posted in the questions section

   After yesterday’s debacle at the Whitehouse involving the Trump administration and Zelensky the European members of NATO are meeting tomorrow in London. This is all tying in with the astrology as Venus has just stationed direct at 10 Aries and is going retrograde on Sunday March 2025. This happening directly on NATO’s natal Mars/Venus conjunction at 10/11 Aries and on the UK Labour government’s North Node at 11 Aries. Venus becomes a Morning Star again after its conjunction with the Sun at 2 Aries on 23 March 2025 before making a series of double conjunctions (one retrograde and one direct) with Neptune, the North Node and Saturn. There is an upcoming Mercury retrograde as well which begins on the 10th March 2025 at 9 Aries which is the same degree as Zelensky’s South Node. This period seems loaded with significance as the Venus and Mercury do not clear their shadows until mid May. The first conjunction of Venus with the NN on 3 April 2025 seems particularly significant as Neptune will have just entered Aries a few days before and will be on the world point. The sequence of conjunctions is retrograde Sun, Neptune, NN, Saturn then direct NN, Saturn Neptune. Saturn will conjoin the North Node on 14 April before its second conjunction with a direct Venus on 25 April 2025. The latter coincides with a potent Pluto/Mars opposition at 3 Aquarius/3 Leo.

   Added into the mix is the Solar Eclipse at 8-9 Aries on 29th March 2025 which occurs just 18 hours before Neptune’s ingress into Aries.

   The fixed star Algenib resides at 9 Aries. Along with Markab and Scheat it up a trio of ill omened stars in Pegasus. Algenib is of a Mars/Mercury nature and “gives notoriety, dishonor, violence, and misfortune and denotes the naked and poor professional beggar.” It is within orbit of the Solar Eclipse on 29 March 2025.

   The fact Neptune is ending one Zodiac cycle in Pisces and about to begin a new one in Aries would suggest the dissolution of the old international order will continue for good or ill. I don’t think there will be any progress until Saturn completes its own zodiacal and moves into Aries in July 2025. Even then it is likely to be hesitant as retrogrades will take both planets back into Pisces later in 2025

10. It seemed to me that having that meeting as a press conference was a set up to humiliate zelensky as a favor to Putin. I dont think zelensky had a choice but whatever the outcome he was going to play into their hands. He wasn’t going to get anything in that deal, and he was going to be forced to humble himself to the king if he was going to get it. In typical zelensky fashion that man was not going to be humiliated. The world stands with Ukraine. One things for sure, Vance is willing to be trumps attack dog.

    • I second your assessment – it was a set up dictated by Putin to humiliate Zelensky ( didn’t work) and show the world he owns Trump and Vance and they will perform at his command (message received). Horrific for the Americans who didn’t want this, horrific for America’s allies.

    • Several articles have been posted by CNN (well, OK) and BBC touching on that theme as the attack dog. There seems a need for bullies to maintain a leg-breaker or enforcer…figurative only. To be the bad guy, surrounded by henchmen, winning their accolades in public and private. How many here have faced bullies in school, work, and the playground?

      Yes, President Z knew ahead of time what he was walking into. As president, that was his command from his people. It was clear that T’s circle has little experience outside the US and global politics.

      Not at all surprised by MGT and her partner lashing out about dress code.

    • The world may support Ukraine but what is that worth? The world doesn’t have soldiers, weapons or weapon manufacturers. Right now, the USA has ten active divisions. Today, the UK said they can’t field even one and could only command one. Most of the rest of Europe couldn’t even field a brigade of which 3 or 4 are needed to make one division. Russia has three divisions fighting in Ukraine. They have another division that is not fighting.

      In 2023, Ukraine stood up new brigades and allowed their old veteran brigades to be decimated while the new brigades were trained. Then threw them into the unsuccessful counteroffensive which resulted in Russia taking new territory. Ukraine is losing slowly and it has been bloody. At this point, they could cede Ukraine and turn and, bypass Poland, and attack Hungary, Slovenia and Austria or someone else and resettle further west as Europe couldn’t put up a defense against Ukraine much less Russia.

      Right now, there are too many people on the left who don’t want to listen to people they disagree with politically. That is fine but while it may be easy to ignore other people’s opinions it is not so easy to ignore their actions.

      The old system has dissolved away but it isn’t Trump that did it. He is just reacting to the reality of it.

      Trump has been telling Europe for a long time they needed to address this. No one listened to him. They just insulted him and ignored him. He told Germany not to buy Russian gas and they did and now look at their manufacturing economy. He told NATO countries to start spending more on defense but they didn’t and Ukraine needs them now but they can’t do much, and now he is telling Ukraine to take the mineral deal so they have a future with help from the US but that once again is not the message that anyone wants to hear.

      I am sad for Zelensky and give him a huge pass, this time, for sandbagging Trump in the Oval Office because Ukraine is in a terrible position and he truly seemed to believe that showing the atrocities that Russia engages in would change his mind. This was the third time Zelensky has asked the US to sign the mineral deal with him but managed not to do it.

      The American position is not about supporting Russia, it is about confronting China. China has 200 divisions. See our problem. Let that sink in, 200 divisions. Americans who are left leaning are delusional about the military, they are usually completely out of touch with the American military picture and usually believe that way too much money is spent on it. Often they campaign on wanting the Defense department cut so they can spend more on welfare benefits. They still believe that America is either a military superpower or the preeminent world power which has not been true since the late 1990s. They have no idea that the entire US missile arsenal (needed for sinking ships) could only hold China off for 8 days and it would take us 12.5 years to fully replenish it. We can only build one ship a day while China can build 350 a day. We may still be technologically more sophisticated but not enough to overcome China’s mass.

      The world may support Ukraine but no one stands except a nation with a military. Starting with fielding a division would be a grood first step.

      • I think the reason why these things have happened (defence capabilities run down, etc.) is because it is believed that future warfare will not be about boots on the ground but about cyber sabotage of vital infrastructure. I have just started reading There’s a War Going On But No One Can See It by Dutch investigative journalist Huib Modderkolk. The research it’s based on is about a decade old but still seems very relevant. We will know we are under attack when our vital infrastructure (power, telecoms, medical facilties, electronic payments, etc.) is paralysed by a so called state actor. It’s already happening and as we enter the new age the capabilities for remotely executed hostile engagement between rival powers will only increase. Ukraine is really the last gasp of 20th century-style warfare. Future engagement will be quite different: more remote, more targeted but just as deadly. So the priorities are different now. As far as I can see this is what the astrology is pointing to. A shift in perspective and a shift in modus operandus.

        • The upcoming Uranus transit into Gemini might be along your discussion points. Disruptions to communications. Disruptions in urban/town areas.

      • People on the left who don’t want to listen to an alternative argument? LOL.People on the left may well not be perfect but they’ve had little but progressively more right-wing narratives thrust down their throats for much of the last 40 years. I don’t see many influential social media platforms (nor mainstream ones) not owned by free market billionaires. I understand the astrology takes precedence on here but I had to respond to this. Presumably, with our ability yo plot the movement of the stars, does anyone know how long before the skies offer humanity anything approaching a generally optimistic outlook. When might there, as the Isley Brothers once sung, be a Harvest for the World? Or is that hopelessly naive?

        • I didn’t say people on the left don’t consider alternative arguments, I said left-leaning Americans are delusional about the capabilities of the American military. I would also say right leaning Americans are not fully aware of how bad it is but they know something is wrong and have known for awhile.

          Delusional beliefs mean that Biden and his administration gave all the old weapons we have been keeping as a backup to Ukraine and abandoned a nation’s worth of military weaponry in Afghanistan. If we need more divisions, we can mobilize more but fight with what? Those old weapons were kept in case of the outbreak of a major world war and could go back into service quickly in the hands of the retired military members who were trained and used them before or take the place of destroyed equipment but when you think the American military can handle everything you don’t recognize you have destroyed our only backup in the face of the greatest mobilization of an adversary since WWII. That backup came from Cold War levels of spending and were the only thing that could have augmented our military quickly. Now we need to buy new weapons before we will have a backup again and train veterans and/or 18 year olds how to use them. The time they bought us is gone now. Taiwan, Japan, Australia, India et al need to porcupine up as fast as possible. The world expects the US cavalry to arrive but we just gave all the extra weapons to Ukraine who destroyed much of it in the 2023 counteroffensive.

          Now to make matters worse the pressure from the elites
          is let’s turn our collective disapproval onto Trump and the uneducated, uncompassionate rubes who voted for him who are stymying our desire for them to keep Russia more than 800 miles from our G7, World Economic Forum etc ski destinations. Churchill at least begged for American help from a bunker not a black diamond ski lift.

          How much of our limited arsenal does America need to give to save Ukraine? Choosing to help Ukraine will mean dead Americans, if China attacks. China has a law requiring their national ferries have reinforcement that means they can carry armor. This costs them billions. It also means they are mobilizing their entire economy. China is planning to attack, probably Taiwan first, but if that was it they wouldn’t have gone from 6 divisions in the 1990s to 200 now.

          On the optimistic front, your greatest strength is your greatest weakness. Communist control of the population means you supercharge your industrial policy and your population demographic policy. Coupled with the officals running local government lying to make everything look good, the military divisions, due to the very effective 1 child policy and industrialization, will dissolve away and about a third of China’s population will be over age 65 by 2035. Neptune transits into Taurus in 2038. Domestic stability might be rocked but the armies probably will be going rapidly.

          Also China doesn’t tell us what is really happening so I still hope they are exaggerating by a factor of ten so maybe the missiles last 80 days and they only have 20 divisions and the rest are paper cutouts that the military generals made to fool their bosses while they stole the money. One can hope.

          Ukraine is unfortunate because their fight has already come. I think they will get a mineral deal done around May 5, 2025. Security in the form of Ceres meets the north node.

          That day, Trump’s Mars and Zelenskyy’s Saturn are both conjunct the Moon and they activate the ASC-DES and Uranus which is sextile Ceres. The deal chart puts Leo Mars in the second on the sabian symbol of the constellation of stars. Both Europe and USA have constellations of stars on their flags.

          The seventh is in Capricorn and Saturn is conjunct Ceres and the north node. May 5th looks very good that the mineral deal has a new Uranian influenced security guarantee. I think it’s going to be something unusual due to Uranus so I don’t know what it might be.

          • @lumiere
            Thank you for a most comprehensive summing up. I just seem to sense a quiet desperation underneath it all, that the USA is now in competition with a huge power, China, hence the need to concentrate all efforts on the Pacific side.
            On the positive side the King has apparently held steady correspondence with Mr Trump, on a personal as well official level as both are heads of state. I also note that Canada is joining in discussions within NATO and Europe, they are geographically in North America but politically in Europe, as the King is their Head of State, maybe that will help smooth matters a little.

          • @virginia: thank you!

11. In two years time, SA Jupiter will be within orb of natal Moon, ruler of the 2nd house (income) of Zelensky, and the SA Moon will be on the natal North Node. That sounds like money coming in. A lot (Jupiter) of it.

    Ukraine has a lot of SA planets coming after its natal Moon in the coming years. Not yet, but is coming. Before that, the SA North Node will be on that Moon. Feels like something about the direction of travel (North Node) for the people (Moon).

    The time of SA Neptune on the Moon will be about the time the South Node is on Jupiter (ruler of the 12th house, self-undoing). Mercury, ruler of the 6th house, of daily routine and health, is not that far from that Jupiter.

    SA MC (societal ambition and standing) in a year is on the cusp of the 12th. Seems significant. Maybe happens around that Saturn–Neptune conjunction important for Russia.

    Also, SA Venus of Ukraine recently changed signs, and it rules the homeland, territory (4th house), so a distinct new feel about that area (new sign), and the 5th house (speculation, entertainment, fun, children).

12. Painful to watch it all play out. I thought Vance was particularly spiteful. But maybe, in all of this, it was good to see the whole thing torn down and that is Zelinsky’s Ace the one card he does have to play ironically given to him by Trump. By this I mean the huge outcry of support. I agree Putin will sit and watch this play out. But the whole thing has dragged on and dragged on him too. So, folks, we’ll see.

13. Thank you, Marjorie. I found yesterday very unsettling, like an imperilled ship on a stormy sea. The line-up in Pisces had Moon, Sun, Saturn and a tight conjunction of Mercury, North Node and Neptune, and saw Neptune’s meeting our old friend, Scheat. Such stormy, astrological weather.

    • Yes, so much mutable madness.

14. I’m also trying to detect on my radar a smidgen of that thesis of Gnarly that once important planets change signs today’s problems won’t be the problems of tomorrow. That really intrigues me, where are we going?

15. I’m constantly trying to figure out some economic stuff, what is happening, what might happen, why is stuff not being dealt with. And today I bumped onto – turns out this has been discussed a whole lot – a thesis that Trump’s economic policy is a mixture of mercantilism (which is a 15th century concept, ruled the world from the 16th until the 18th; goals: “to collect as much gold and loot as possible” and “to be richer and more powerful than everyone else”) and economics of supply (Reaganomics, lower taxes, reduced regulations, “incentives for businesses to expand”, focuses on the “supply” side, unlike Keynsianism, which focuses on “demand”). His policies are also jaw-droppingly and shiver-inducingly transactional and adversarial, which fits into neomercantilism.

    Apparently, Reaganomics did lead to strong growth, drop in inflation, and a decrease in unemployment. But, it also led to increased national debt, growth of inequality, and the trickle-down effect didn’t fully affect the lower-income people as expected.

    So, I guess “Too many charts – too much uncertainty.” is very true.

    And the times are so different now than in the 16th century or the time of Reagan, Dallas and Dynasty. Trump really is a creature of old in his tastes and interests. He also seems so bored with this presidential job. In his first mandate not so much, but now he really appears not to have any interest in it that much.

    Yesterday, and today bumped onto one explanation that differed much from what I read when his was in the office first, I was trying to figure out his “downward prayer” hand position.

    • Interesting, EA. Thank you.

      • You’re welcome. Forgot to add that, whoa!, mercantilism is apparently a French invention?! 0_0

16. I do find it intriguing how all of those in Trumps circle, including Trump himself and of course Putin have bad charts for 2026/2027. It makes me think its all linked and that Russian interference, potentially helping to get Trump elected, might come out into the open then.

    • I was trying to figure out if this nasty scary stuff like yesterday’s broadcast meeting, uncertainty, and fear will last until that Saturn–Neptune conjunction in 2026. Where are those Barbault good times?