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Trump – a fight for the soul of America

Trump’s approval ratings have improved significantly since his impeachment because of positive responses to his Iraq policy, trade deals and the economy. Liberals and the liberal media watch with horror-struck outrage as he stumbles on spewing lies in all directions, kicking over the constitution, breaching protocols, backed to the hilt by a supine GOP. Tom Joseph of twitter feed @TomJChicago reckons he’s heading off the edge with dementia. On his State of the Union speech he wrote: “Cranked up, most likely on stimulants and Levodopa, Trump struggled all night with body jerking, teeth baring, arm trembling and a podium death grip. His dementia Tour de Force climaxed with this neurological body jerk/spasm.”

And yet like Rasputin, Trump just keeps on trucking.

Trump does have tr Jupiter now moving through his 5th house for a year which will boost his confidence and make him grandstand more than usual. He’s also (birth time being accurate) got tr Pluto trine his Midheaven from now-ish which is generally constructive on the career front running till late 2021. But apart from that his astrology is all pressured, challenging, obstacle strewn.

Tr Pluto is opposing his Mars/Node at the moment and his Saturn which suggests being under mountainous strain and feeling trapped. Tr Saturn is also opposition his Venus exactly now (recurring twice before the year end) which tends to dent popularity or at least brings a sense of being unloved. It could also have financial implications.

Tr Pluto then moves on to oppose his Sun/Mars midpoint, Venus/Saturn and Mercury/Pluto from February 22nd till early July and again late December till late January 2021.

Pluto on Sun/Mars = fanatical, unscrupulous, tendency to overtax strength, violence, trapped, in some cases associated with cardiac problems.

Pluto on Venus/Saturn = exceptionally lonely, feeling unloved, can be perverse and sometimes is associated with glandular problems.

Pluto on Mercury/Pluto = doubles up on the demagoguery, fraudulent speech, tendency to overtax nervous system, dogmatic to the nth degree.

[This late February to early July period, and again late December to late January 2021, and again to the end of 2021 – is when tr Pluto is opposing the Mercury on the USA 1776 chart starting the grinding and bitterly fought battle through the US’s Pluto Return two years later. Some Republicans said they had to vote with Trump against the impeachment because they feared the culture war that would break out if they didn’t support him.  This transit of Pluto battering on the USA Mercury opposition Pluto is likely to lead in that direction.]

To return to Trump, late this March till early October he has a couple of Neptune hard aspects to Uranus midpoints suggesting lack of energy, muddle-headed, nervous exhaustion.

His relationship chart with the USA, despite the polls, indicates the start of a two year run of aggravation from now till late 2021.

Into 2021 he has tr Neptune hitting on his Moon and Sun/Moon midpoints and a couple of Neptunian swamps which will affect him mentally as well as physically from Solar Arcs later in the year.

Nancy Pelosi doesn’t look as if she is winning much. She has a Solar Arc Sun square Neptune and a Solar Arc Saturn square Jupiter around now both of which aren’t successful; plus a plans-not-working-out tr Pluto trine Neptune now and on and off till late 2021. More losses and failed plans late this month till July and again across the New Year to late January 2021. She’ll have a small stroke of luck from mid April for two weeks but that apart is pushing into a headwind.

Of the Trump sprogs, the most upbeat looks to be Ivanka, who has tr Pluto square his Jupiter Pluto in Libra from late this month on and off till late 2021.

The Saturn Pluto conjunction appears to be acting as expected with repressive force, trampling over decency, might-makes-right-wins however unfair, the underdog gets trampled. And not just in the USA though it is the most egregious example. In the UK Boris is acting like a tinpot dictator dismissing fears over US food standards as mumbo-jumbo, mishandling climate change and adopting a wildly unrealistic approach to EU negotiations as if he had the upper hand, described by analysts as a ‘mad man’ strategy. All too bizarre.

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24 thoughts on “Trump – a fight for the soul of America

  1. Just a comment on the New Zealand part of ‘bucking the trend’. I am a pakeha New Zealander, and have been contemplating the response here to Pluto/Saturn plus other transits, of Capricorn. I think what is mainly involved is the relationship of Maori and ‘the Crown’ – seen to be the rest of us I think. Over successive Governments we have inched forwards towards r ecognizing the disastrous effects of colonization on the indigenous people. The Pluto pain has to be addressed and responded to actively not just in words. We are lucky that successive people from both races have arisen to lead the way. We have a long way to go, and of course some pakeha object, but as in many countries, I believe we must learn from our indigenous populations how not to destroy the world.

  2. Reading the online articles (CNN, Reuter, BBC, others), Trump is wavng the newspaper headlines in everyone’s face. Natural enough for his victory lap…racing around the track and splashing everyone (including allies) in spectator stands with mud.

    I’m concern with long-term international and domestic fallout and repercussions. One low-yield nuclear weapon, lost and running amok out from the blue, can ruin your whole day 😉

  3. This just in: During her post-acquittal news conference a few minutes ago, Nancy Pelosi commented that Trump looked “sedated” at his state-of-the-union address. Interesting. At least he’s taking his meds.

  4. JW, autocorrect for the name and I did read his twitter feed. Was not impressed. I have much more experience than he does regarding dementia, his experience is with Huntington’s disease which is completely different and familial. Still stands that no one should diagnose another person without a thorough examination.

    • Speaking of a diagnosis…Ivanka looking very “round faced” during a post-absolution interview with Papa. Is she expecting again?

  5. Bloomberg’s natal chart is very fixed (14 February 1942), with Sun, Moon, Mercury and Venus in Aquarius and Mars, Saturn and Uranus in Taurus. His Uranus and Saturn sit on Trump’s MC, square Trump’s Leo Mars and ascendant. His Sun opposes that Mars. Depending on which time you prefer for the USA national chart, Bloomberg’s Aquarian Sun is conjunct the USA Moon in Aquarius, with Uranus and Saturn square. So it is pretty adversarial, and shaking things up whatever the eventual outcome at election time. With all his (real) wealth, Bloomberg can play all manner of games via strategic spending. And with so much fixed energy, I’d imagine he makes for an incredibly stubborn opponent.
    If birth time is correct, Bloomberg’s Cancer ascendant opposes the USA Pluto in Capricorn. It will be interesting to see how the dance between Saturn in Capricorn and Mars in Aries manifests in August and September as they cross those degrees. Punchy.

  6. Thanks for this and the subsequent discussion.
    Trump’s horoscope is interesting. This shows a classic case of an excess of trines which is lucky and fortunate in many ways but leads to many (including those who are close to him)vehemently disliking the subject.
    Looking at the coming year I suspect that his two main challenges will be an overload of Jupiter combined with Pluto causing overreach and blowing his fuses. One suspects that the more the world throws challenges at him the more he will react by grandstanding, outrage and general overbearing conduct which may or may not work for him. He is fortunate (lucky trines again) that the US economy remains positive but it is slowing.
    His democratic challengers are a motley crew. The whole bunch of them (apart from Mayor Pete who is overly young) are older than one would expect. What happens if the democratic nominee becomes ill or incapable during an election. Does Trump get to continue in those circumstances?

  7. Why is America fixated on electing old statement/politicians/TV unreality stars? Obviously we have some kind of unrealistic vision of who should lead / represent the country.

  8. I don’t se MP as VP for much longer, DT daughter is not far from the action and I think DT will pick a woman as VP possibly Nikki Haley. Marjorie mentioned relationship issues around this time for MP.

    • I’m not saying this is impossible, but I think keeping a “GOP Approved” VP on the ticket was part of the deal McConnell made with White House for keeping the Senators on line in witness vote. Obviously, not hearing witnesses was probably better for many of the “vulnerable” GOP Senators, too, but I’m certain this is not how McDonnell framed it to DJT and/or his family to get an upper hand.

      Astrology: McConnell is a Sun Pisces with a very likely Taurus Moon and definite Taurus Saturn/Mars, so with an incredible staying power. Incidently, or maybe not, born the day after FDR signed the Executive Order ultimately leading to internment of American Japanese population. He is also of Leo Pluto Generation, with his 4′ Leo Pluto opposing his 5′ Aquarius Venus and POSSIBLY squaring his Moon.

      Mike Pence has some synastry with McConnell. McConnell’s Jupiter is conjunct his Sun. This is an aspect I’ve observed and experienced in professional environment. In this scenario, Jupiter person can “make or break” the Sun person. Not only: Pence has a Venus/Mars conjunction early Leo. Mars is aligning precisely with McConnell’s Pluto/Venus and possibly Moon. This opposition/ T-square will be activated by Saturn in Aquarius *checks notes* January 21st 2020. Inauguration Chart Saturn in 3’54 Aquarius.

      This tells me Pence and McConnell will be, somehow, central figures up until Inauguration. Saturn passage could be fatal to both of their political careers. Pence is already running into some setbacks starting from Summer 2020, when Saturn opposes his Venus. But Saturn to Mars is, by all accounts, much more “conflict prone”
      and dynamic passage. It’s a passage that can, sometimes, be a literal punch in the face. But yes, usually something sudden and leaving a cloud of dust.

  9. In Trump’s inaugural chart for 2020, there is Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, and the Sun all in Aquarius in the 10th House and Pluto conjuncts the Midheaven. Based on what I’ve been learning in astrology, this appears to signify major social change. In other words, I wouldn’t think something like this would represent Trump or the Republican Party.

    I haven’t looked at Mike Bloomberg’s chart, but I know many astrologers have. Many astrologers appear to be in agreement that Mike Bloomberg is the only Democratic candidate who has the most powerful aspects to becoming President. They’ve mentioned all of these grand trines and sextiles Bloomberg has around the time of the election – all of which appear much stronger than Trump’s.

    I was a little surprised at first when they concluded Bloomberg as having the most favorable election aspects given how Aquarius (which seems to represent major social progress and change) is supposed to have a greater influence later this year. However, then I remembered, there is Uranus in Taurus that’s happening right now….and that might favor a candidate who can “shake things up” – and even though Bloomberg is running as a Democrat, he’s basically an Independent (like Bernie Sanders, another candidate who’s been surging lately).

    I’ve mentioned this many times before: I consider myself a traditional Democrat, so I’ve always been a huge Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama supporter. I’m voting for Joe Biden (who’s part of the Clinton / Obama team) in the Florida Democratic Primary this March. However, with Joe Biden, I know Saturn is now opposing his natal Jupiter…and it’s thrown a monkey wrench in his polling numbers, campaign finances, and it ruined his chances of winning the Iowa Caucus (which was held on his late son’s birthday).

    Anyway, Mike Bloomberg has been running ads like crazy here in Florida – this is one of the most expensive states for Democrats to compete, advertising down here is soooooo expensive. So, I like that Mike Bloomberg (who’s worth over $60 billion) can self-fund his campaign and doesn’t have to worry about donors. Also, Bloomberg has been doing some amazing ads – he’s been focusing on the need to protect and improve Obamacare (which is the most important issue for me as a voter right now)…and he’s strong on environmental conservation (another thing I like). Bloomberg’s ads appear to be really helping him because he’s now second place in polling to Joe Biden here in Florida.

    All in all, it will be interesting to see what happens throughout the course of the Democratic Primaries. I’m still supporting Joe Biden and I will vote for him unless he drops out. If that happens, then I’ll support Mike Bloomberg (he’s now my second choice).

    Aside from my personal Democratic candidate preferences, I know I’ll vote for whoever gets the nomination (even if the candidate is Bernie Sanders) this November. Defeating Donald Trump in the general election should be everyone’s primary objective.

    Chris Romero
    Jacksonville, Florida, U.S.

    • “I haven’t looked at Mike Bloomberg’s chart, but I know many astrologers have. Many astrologers appear to be in agreement that Mike Bloomberg is the only Democratic candidate who has the most powerful aspects to becoming President. They’ve mentioned all of these grand trines and sextiles Bloomberg has around the time of the election – all of which appear much stronger than Trump’s.”

      Hmmm, I have consult his chart again. That said, Grand Trines and Sextiles are comfortable, not dynamic aspects. Since we know how Republican Dirt Campaigns work and how much “Bernie Bros” hate billionaires, he probably won’t be fending anyone off, if his chart is all roses and violets.

      That said, he has those literal billions to spend on his campaign! I think it’s much more important that he is bankrolling Democratic Candidates in “down ballots”, and he is incredibly strategic with his spending.

      • @Solaia,

        Yes, I’ve noticed Mike Bloomberg is indeed very strategic with his campaign spending. For him, money is certainly no object (I don’t think it would be for anyone worth $60 billion). However, I have become impressed by Bloomberg’s ads (he’s focusing heavily on protecting Obamacare which I think is a major concern for many Floridians [myself included] right now) and he’s focusing on states rich in diversity and pledged delegates. In other words, I’m not underestimating Bloomberg anymore.

        Right now, the momentum appears to be with Bernie Sanders, and to a lesser extent, Pete Buttiegieg since they both won in a virtual “tie” in Iowa. Nate Silver’s projection models now have Bernie Sanders with an almost 50% chance of winning the Democratic nomination. In fact, Nate Silver’s models are now predicting Bernie Sanders to win every single state and territory except Delaware (Biden’s state). However, I believe even Nate Silver said the models could be exaggerating a bit – Sanders obviously has momentum right now but it is theoretically unlikely he will win all 56 remaining caucuses and primaries.

        Some of the data analysts have pointed out that Bloomberg’s decision not to compete in the early states could potentially backfire given that over 38% of the pledged delegates will have been awarded by the first Super Tuesday (which will be March 3rd). However, it could be that Bloomberg is anticipating a brokered convention (which has become more of a possibility).

        All in all, I’m still supporting Biden and I’m he’ll do much better in the upcoming states. However, it will be interesting to things manifest with Bloomberg’s campaign as well.

        You mentioned funding “down the ballot” Democratic candidates. Actually, I did hear both Mike Bloomberg said he was committed to investing over $1 billion to helping Democratic candidates running for the U.S. House and U.S. Senate this year which is very encouraging. Plus, I believe both Tom Steyer (another billionaire) and Mike Bloomberg mentioned something about helping pay off former convict felons’ legal fees here in Florida so they will be eligible to vote this November.

  10. Trump may do well in 2020.
    Trump may be written out of the script in 2021, as his health is beginning to deteriorate
    very visibly.

  11. I don’t know about this Tom Jones person. Both my parents had dementia, I’ve read tons about it, my husband is a doctor and aim a nurse, I would never presume to diagnose anyone I have never examined up close and personal. I do listen to Van Jones though and his twitter said this:
    “WAKE UP, folks. The #IowaCaucus was a debacle, followed by a strong #SOTU speech laying out Trump’s strategy to win – which includes going for Black voters. This was a warning shot from the Trump campaign to liberals, and we need to take this VERY seriously in order to win.” Dementia suppositions will not cause him to win or lose the race. Democrats need a very strong leader to beat Trump.

    • “I don’t know about this Tom Jones person. Both my parents had dementia, I’ve read tons about it, my husband is a doctor and aim a nurse, I would never presume to diagnose anyone I have never examined up close and personal. I do listen to Van Jones though and his twitter said this:
      “WAKE UP, folks. The #IowaCaucus was a debacle, followed by a strong #SOTU speech laying out Trump’s strategy to win – which includes going for Black voters. This was a warning shot from the Trump campaign to liberals, and we need to take this VERY seriously in order to win.” Dementia suppositions will not cause him to win or lose the race. Democrats need a very strong leader to beat Trump.”

      I understand you are bound by professional ethics here, and have internalized them. But really, when MDs diagnose a form of dementia, they send the patient to cognitive evaluation based on I think there is more than enough material from this man’s public appearances to make people worry. We don’t know how autonomous DJT is in everyday life. But any recording of him in public situations from, let’s say, just 2016 and now would show a clear and in some senses sudden mental and physical deteriorating. I think this is enough to be concerned and demand for a through medical evaluation in controlled environment (and not just a “yearly medical”, which, BTW, he should have this week, according to scheduling in past two years).

      And no, this is not a question of “winning and losing”, but the very foundation of transparency in democracy. POTUS has extensive executive powers, and having him incapacitated mentally and/or physically will open those powers to people and influences nobody has voted for. If this sounds scary, trust me, it is. To tie astrology to this, it opens doors to all kind of Plutonic influences. Hidden powers. This is why it SHOULD be a prime issue for US voters.

    • Wendy it’s Tom Joseph, not Jones. If you were to read his feed, you would see that not only is he not diagnosing anything, he is pointing out things that can clearly be seen. He has gone thru this with three of his family members so he knows the signs. Trump displays the physical, emotional and mental signs quite clearly and seems to be progressing along an established timeline.

  12. On the physical health front, transiting Saturn will pop into Trump’s 6th house in March and again in December this year.

    Yes Marjorie, I agree with you regarding the Saturn/Pluto effect – we are seeing repressive forces at work and a move to the hard right under it’s influence. It reminds me of the 1930s with the global rise of populism, following the trauma of WWI and worldwide financial instability. (I don’t know what it is going on in the charts of New Zealand and Finland but those countries seem to be bucking this trend). In the UK, it’s being reported that the Foreign Office have allegedly been banned from using certain words; no matter how much Trump tramples on and disregards rules, his popularity continues. Those who express empathy or compassion towards others are ‘snowflakes’. It appears that the tyrannical father archetype has become the embodiment of the conjunction. Maybe the arrival of Jupiter will lighten this heaviness.

    • “(I don’t know what it is going on in the charts of New Zealand and Finland but those countries seem to be bucking this trend.)”

      Very strong socially “progressive” tradition, I would say, at least in Nordic Countries. The ongoing joke in Finland is that while other parties are losing voters to Finns Party, Social Democrats lose them to graveyard. It’s worth to note Sweden and Denmark too have named a left leaning Governments since Uranus went to Taurus, and that’s, in my opinion, because this has been “the tradition” since Uranus was in Taurus the last time.

  13. “Tom Joseph of twitter feed @TomJChicago reckons he’s heading off the edge with dementia. On his State of the Union speech he wrote: “Cranked up, most likely on stimulants and Levodopa, Trump struggled all night with body jerking, teeth baring, arm trembling and a podium death grip. His dementia Tour de Force climaxed with this neurological body jerk/spasm.”

    The vacant look Trump has while “confidently” saluting GOP members was quite something. I have no idea who this guy is or why would he be an authority on dementia, but it was actually his tweet on frontotemporal dementia that made me look at the description. Anyhow, it seems he knows what he is talking about. I feel that MDs have made same observations, but being tied by their oath and other ethical restrictions. So, he might have seen this happening to a loved one, and taken the same approach I’ve taken when facing an illness – read every single peer evaluated article on the subject as well as watch countless “patient experience videos” on Youtube. Frontotemporal dementia is the only common type of dementia of which progress I have not witnessed close by, sometimes in multiple cases, due to having grown up with two grandparents having extremely close ties (visits several times a week, for instance) to their multiple siblings. My much less extensive experience on frontotemporal dementia comes from seeing this in professional environment. So, I wasn’t familiar with “early” signs which actually could have been present in Mr. Trump since the “Stormy Days”. His behavior has been questionable for

    What really should scare Democrats and Republicans alike is that if this truly is frontotemporal dementia, Trump’s would be in a relatively advanced stage of the disease based on motoral difficulties. I guess Republicans’ “game” is to have him last until he is re-elected, then pass the ball to Pence. They could do it now, but Pence would likely lose to any given top Democratic Candidate. But this could backfire, because since “Parkinson like” motorial symptoms tend to appear only at a late stage of frontotemporal dementia, Trump may not have 6 or 8 months of functionality, even with a lighter schedule where he is shielded.

    And, having Trump removed from picture very late in “the game” makes 2020 Election very unpredictable.

    • I do have experience of someone close with FTD, as I’ve mentioned in a previous post. It tends to be diagnosed at earlier ages than other kinds of dementia – 45 – 65 being the age range given by the Alzheimer’s US website. Their list of FTD symptoms is thought provoking:

      Poor judgment
      Loss of empathy
      Socially inappropriate behavior
      Lack of inhibition
      Repetitive compulsive behavior
      Inability to concentrate or plan
      Frequent, abrupt mood changes
      Speech difficulties
      Problems with balance or movement
      Memory loss

      In some cases there are additional factors that cause delusions and hallucinations. In my own experience, there is a mixture of perfectly ordinary behaviour and memory popping up in between during the decline. Overall, the person one knows and loves seems to be checking out, with little response to emotional warmth.

      The British writer and comedian, Terry Jones (1st February, 1942), was diagnosed with FTD in 2015 and died very recently in his mid seventies. He had Mercury square Saturn and Uranus natally, my own experience was with someone who had Mercury exactly opposing Uranus.

      But as far as I know, the condition and damage can advance quite slowly, so that long before diagnosis some of the symptoms and behaviours are already manifesting. This would seem to be the case with Trump. Unless he has had a mini stroke, which might be a possibility as well. It’s obvious to many of us that something is actually wrong with him, setting opinions of his behaviour and actions to one side. If he does have FTD it will only progress, and will be impossible to conceal eventually.

  14. Based mostly on the astrology, I’ve come to accept the probability of Trump’s re-election. He seems to be bullet-proof, invincible. Re impeachment, Nixon quit in disgrace, Clinton apologized. Trump just keeps defying and bullying. And it works! I’m now pinning my hopes on 2024.

    • Not out of the question, but this will be a different ballgame when they have an actual Democratic Nominee. All of them will manage to look humane compared to Trump. Put in simple words, I think majority of the voters are ready for a POTUS who knows how to pet a dog, and possibly has one (Warren, Biden and Buttigieg at least have a “first dog” or “first dogs”). Election Day Chart also has a strong underlying “justice” element into it. People want to see justice done.

      That said, 2021 Inauguration Chart is quite something. There’s horrendous tension, from “below the surface” to “the surface”. Pluto is on The MC. It has Taurus Mars/Uranus conjunct in the 12th house in a relatively tight square from Jupiter/Saturn in that 10th house (9th house if using equal house, which I prefer for Mundane Astrology), and out of sign “waning” square from Pluto. My interpretation of this is that there WILL be prominent court cases during this Presidency. And then there’s that Mars conjunct Uranus in the 12th house. That boggles my mind. I’m thinking this could be President sworn in being incapacitated by some kind of a health issue? This is not out of question, given DJTs health and that three out of four Democratic frontrunners are in their 70’s, and one was recently hospitalized (yet somehow manages to move with more ease than the “perfectly healthy” DJT) due to a heart attack.

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