The white smoke announcing Pope Leo XIV’s election at 6.08 pm in Rome sent the crowds of the faithful gathered in St Peter’s Square into wild expressions of delight and surprise. An American pope had not been expected though Leo’s South American missionary work has led to hopes of a unity head of the church, bringing together disparate factions.
He has taken the name of the previous revolutionary Pope Leo X111, regarded as the founding father of Catholic social doctrine in modern times. He positioned himself on the side of the working class, affirming such things as the right of workers to decent working conditions, a just wage, labor unions and the right to strike. He went on to serve as pope for 25 years.
This Pope Leo XIV, born 14 September 1955 in Chicago, no birth time as yet, is a Sun Venus in Virgo sextile Saturn in Scorpio with Mars and perhaps Moon also in Virgo. His Jupiter in Leo is in a confident conjunction to Pluto square Saturn. Flexible, knowledgeable and tough.
Though he does not have his name predecessor Leo X111’s revolutionary drive. He was born 2 March 1810 7pm Carpineto Romano, Italy and had a determined Sun Pluto in Pisces square Neptune Saturn in Sagittarius and trine Uranus. He was elected on 20 February 1878 when there was a revolutionary Pluto square Uranus and Uranus on the focal point of a wide-ish yod inconjunct Jupiter sextile Saturn.
Nor does he have the recent Pope Francis’s Uranus square Pluto in his birth chart and even more obvious in his election chart.
What he does have is an uphill-struggle Pluto in the 4th opposition a 10th house Mars on his election chart pointing at internal resistance to change. Uranus Algol in the 8th hint at financial entanglements which are difficult to resolve. The Jupiter falls in the far-travelled 9th so his greatest success may come away from Rome.
He has already raised the ire of the MAGA zealots for his views on gun control and immigration and previous criticism of JD Vance and a number of key Trump policies online. Laura Loomer, a Trumpian conspiracy theorist said: ‘He is anti-Trump, anti-MAGA, pro-open Borders, and a total Marxist like Pope Francis,’ she went on, later. ‘Catholics don’t have anything good to look forward to.’
His synastry with Trump is dire. Pope Leo’s Pluto is conjunct DT’s Mars in Leo and Ascendant and square DT’s Midheaven. With Pope Leo’s Sun Venus square DT’s Uranus Sun. Pope Leo’s Sagittarius North Node is conjunct DT’s Moon and opposition his Sun North Node hinting at ‘spiritual’ journeys going in opposite direction.
This election chart is not an easy one for making substantive progress but he will clash with the pro-Trumpers.
Add On: The three previous Popes election charts. John Paul with Mars Pluto in the 8th is ominous with a good deal of buried dirt and secrets, glossed over by a popular Jupiter on the Descendant.
Benedict, a serious Saturn in the 10th square Sun.
Francis had a 7th house Moon and Uranus with Mars conjunct the Descendant from the 6th and a 4th house Pluto – plenty of fire and divisive argument and pushback from the internal politics.
I also have to check once again, but in Vedic election astrology, Venus in the 6th is one major blight, called Bhrigu Shtaka, I think. Maybe I got the spelling wrong. And I think literature says such a position won’t give the person who performed the action at that time satisfaction. So I guess here this could mean that those who voted the Pope in might not find satisfaction they thought they would. But then I’d also have to check if that Venus is in the 6th in whole-sign houses in jyotish.
I just keep thinking that something in the communication, which so far seems to have been excellent (minor flaws excluded), will go wrong with this papacy. I guess it is that Mercury conjunct Chiron. But then again, Mercury is youth.
Women don’t look good either with than Venus, even though this pope gave them a vote in bishop elections.
Maybe the brother social media is a harbinger.
Moon opposite Venus in Aries may suggest the role of women within the church will come under the spotlight.
@El Aznar This is not intended to be an astrological comment. Having read the entire thread, I can’t help but feel that you have some sort of negative agenda against XIV Leo, one that I can’t understand from either an astrological or a personal, human perspective. Perhaps you should reflect on what triggered you.
I think your comment and this one will be deleted, as they should, but you are wrong and are projecting. Your last line might refer better to yourself. What is important is balance: to enrapturedness there is a counterforce of reality.
El Aznar, I quite agree with the AM comment and gaslighting any criticism by turning it back on the other is hardly helpful to informed debate which you have a tendency of doing. Cool it and take the advice to reflect on why your comments have been so construed.
Marjorie in November 2024:
“Tr Saturn Neptune in Aries is also poised to move into the Vatican 8th house of finances from 2026 for several years thereafter, to be joint soon by the SA Saturn which won’t help the money flow.”
“… tr Uranus square the Neptune, tr Neptune conjunct the Saturn and tr Pluto square the Venus in 2025. With tr Uranus conjunct the Midheaven in 2025/26 and square the SA MC also in 2025/26.”
“A change of direction will be on the cards, wished for or not, with financial disillusionment part of the package. Which may not all be about a bankrupt North American wing but it surely won’t help.”
If it is specifically about the Vatican City State’s finances, as opposed to the Holy See’s finances, then it could suggest a fall in tourism numbers to the Vatican City or something similar, as opposed to a wider Church/Hole See financial crisis.
What do you think about the change of direction when most now see Leo as a successor of the path of Francis? He is also seen as a confirmation of the rule that the predecessor picks the successor.
I’m inclined to think that Leo would *not* have been Francis’s choice as successor. Indeed the rule actually goes the other way, that the cardinals tend to swing in the other direction from the recently deceased pope.
Leo XIV has shown an enthusiasm for the Latin Mass, being one of the few and at times the only bishop to be authorised to celebrate it. He wore the formal vestments of the papacy that Francis refused to wear. So, at least in some aspects, he is more traditionally minded than Francis.
We do not know his take on social matters, but it is saying something that his first encyclical has been announced to be on AI. The Augustinians are better known for their emphasis on knowledge and learning, as opposed to field work, for instance and it is appropriate that the first Augustinian pope’s first encyclical will be on the processing of knowledge (which is what data is, in a way).
The synastry of the Pope and the Vatican (7 June 1929 at 11:00, Rome, IT) – some stuff if ouchy.
– Leo’s Mars squares Vatican’s Sun: “strong differences that are almost impossible to overcome”;
– Pope’s Mars squares Vatican’s Moon: “this may create a sort of emotional battlefield where both partners go at each other and hurt each other’s feelings”;
– Sun square Sun: “individuals are striving to achieve self-realization, but because of their personal differences they might often argue”;
– Leo’s Sun squares Vatican’s Mercury: “tension that is difficult to express may arise, and this can cause a lack of emotional satisfaction”;
– Leo’s Sun squares Vatican’s Saturn: “creates a karmic relationship that may be difficult. The Sun person tries to transcend the boundaries of their past, therefore subconsciously chooses this relationship for this purpose. There may be struggles with morality and guilt in the process”;
– Leo’s Uranus squares Vatican’s Venus: “results in a very troubled relationship”, “relationship can easily get hurricane quality, which may occur without any apparent reason”;
– Leo’s Venus squares Vatican’s Mercury and Saturn: “aspect could make normal, mundane communication difficult” + “Irritation, frustration, blockage of feelings, the feeling of dependence may be predominant factors in the relationship, that makes this aspect similar to the legendary Gordian knot”;
– Leo’s Saturn squares Vatican’s Mars: “people are attracted to each other due to mutual lessons they need to learn”;
– Leo’s Mercury squares Vatican’s Pluto (partile): “brings in the relationship quarrelsome and contentious tone”;
– Leo’s Pluto square Vatican’s Jupiter: is that what Marjorie calls fight for the upper hand aspect?
Ouch.
Just seeing these are squares, you know it is CLASHES and TENSION. The shoe doesn’t fit. Something in the shoe rubs you the wrong way, and it is constant. Though squares call you to growth and are dynamic. Push you to action.
And I’ve been wondering how he is seen and how he will be. Obviously now everyone is enraptured. But I’m not sure those bits of creeping English into speeches or Spanish are seen as great. The Italian newspapers seem to me to be a bit fuming under the hood that Italy against lost the See.
There are trines and some nice aspects, but these I’ve listed really speak of much squabbling, fighting, misunderstanding, going in different directions, quarrels.
Yikes.
Someone should check if I got the times right.
Composite is Sun conjunct Pluto in Leo and Jupiter conjunct Venus in Cancer, and Uranus opposite Saturn (Uranus is in Gemini, so the composite is about to get the Uranus return).
Pluto will, by transit, oppose all those Leo planets. In the composite again an unaspected Mars and also Mercury. Maybe a Moon–Neptune duet. So a lot of unconscious content brought onto the surface unknowingly.
Saturn square Mars in synastry:
“This aspect can create power struggles, conflicts, and a strong need for control in relationships.”
“It often manifests as a clash between one person’s assertiveness and the other’s desire for discipline and structure.”
“Saturn may view Mars as childish, cocky, or impulsive, leading to criticism or judgment of Mars’s approach and behavior.”
“However, this aspect can also foter a deep and intense bond between individuals.”
El Aznar – Looking at the man – he has a calm mind. He is Augustinian, he has worked with the very poor for decades, and latterly at the vatican overseeing bishops. He is highly esteemed by his friends and colleagues. The astrology may be as you say – the interest is what he can bring to a rough ride. Look at the difference between eg Mr Trump’s rhetoric and the measured care of this guy? Does it cross your mind as it did mine – oh a force to be reckoned with. The integrity of pulled back to core essentiels demanded by pluto in aquarius? Happy to lead but a team player too? Green flag(s)…
Not unhopeful
A Virgo! Just looking at the sun sign suggests a life in retreat and contemplation, with those planets in the 12th house: Uranus, ruler of the 6h house for Virgo, with Mars and Jupiter. Also Mercury close to Neptune.
Timing has tr Jupiter conjunct the 10th.
The Leo planets should help with leadership – presumably how he became a Cardinal in the first place.
May he exemplify the best traits of Virgos in service of humanity – we all need it, regardless of our faith.
We cannot judge on the houses, or the Moon, without knowing the birth time.
The ultra right Catholics around Trump are not going be able to follow the new Pope. Is there anything, astrowise, to indicate a schism in the Church? Trump starting his own religion? It has happened before, of course…..
Lorna, Trump’s followers already have their religion/cult. It’s called MAGA, and Trump is their infallible God-King. Some have even portrayed him as the second coming of Christ, and the failed assassination attempt on him in Pennsylvania last summer was all the proof they needed that he is indeed the “Chosen One” blessed by God Himself. I wish I were making this up. These people are true nutters of the worst order.
Trump has more in common with Boris, a nominal Catholic (three wives, countless children, blond dishevelled hair, born in the USA to a British mother, etc) than with Henry VIII (whose parents were married to reconcile and end the War of the Roses and who therefore knew the value of an unambiguous line of succession) with his six wives.
The most difficult period of his papacy is likely to come in 2028 when the transiting Saturn-Pluto square makes a T-square with his natal Uranus. That is another indication of a coming world war.
I’ve been thinking that this pope comes as a pope for the war in America that might be coming with Uranus in Gemini.
The election of John Paul II (Karol Wojtyla) took place on October 14, 1978. Pope John Paul was elected on 26 August and died 28 September 1978.
The fixed stars are glittering away in these papal charts! Just so many. But tr Jupiter (the king, general, ecclesiastical leader) in Gemini played an important part in the election – it was conjunct the new Pope’s karmic S Node, and at the same time crossing D. Trump’s natal Sun, having just passed his North Node and opposed his natal Moon. So I looked to see what might be going on at 22 Gemini.
I thought the fixed star Phact, the alpha star in Columba, the Dove, was a lovely symbol for this important moment:
“Phact (Noah’s pigeon), corresponds to the nature of Mercury-Venus, with a touch of Uranus. This fixed star in a good conjunction is supposed to give an appreciation for form and rhythmics as well as artistic talents, and is also supposed to confer ardent interest in science. Phact near the Sun is found in the cosmograms of the great mathematician Newton and the composer Richard Strauss. This fixed star gives a touch of genius and medium-ship. It is assumed that this fixed star will gain importance with the beginning of the “Aquarian Age”. [Fixed Stars and Their Interpretation, Elsbeth Ebertin, 1928, p.35.]
I noticed the reference to mathematics, and remembered the Pope has a maths degree. Interesting what Ebertin says about the Aquarian Age too. And Noah’s dove/messenger pigeon is a symbol of the Holy Spirit, peace, and in ancient myth the goddess of love, Aphrodite.
On the opposite end of the Gemini/Sagittarius see-saw is Ras Alhague, alpha star in Ophiucus. There’s the man, sometimes called a snake-charmer, wrestling for all eternity with a huge snake. This constellation is associated with poison (from the snake), upheavals by the Kabbalists, and a struggle between equal powers that is never won or lost. Saturn, Neptune, and Venus are the planet themes linked with Ras Alhague.
Ebertin wrote:
“Besides the lower emanations, there are supposedly higher influences attributed to this star, ‘though only very few people are able to attune themselves to these influences’.” [Fixed Stars and Their Interpretation, Elsbeth Ebertin, 1928, p.72-73.]
Thank you Jane for this erudite post. Much learned.
What I don’t like about this election chart is that in six years that Pluto will by solar arc oppose that Mars. And within five will be within orb of that opposition.
Louisa, the Moon in 12th for me doesn’t really show much auspice for the populace (Moon, the people). That’s a hidden, prison of a house.
Lilith rising might be obscure, but there is something to that position as well.
The name itself Leo has an air of Leonine vanity to it.
But then Church is full of – full! – overflowing with such contradictions, it can take your breath away just being aware of it for a moment.
And for me Leo’s Jupiter is a bit far from Pluto, 7° 17′, which is more than 6°, which is what I would allow for in this case.
That would then signify he has a Mercury–Jupiter duet, if I’m seeing right (similar to an unaspected planet, here only two planets aspecting each other, something not easy for the conscious self to get the grasp of). The Moon, if in Leo, and at 00:00 on the day he was born was at 25° Leo 3’, might aspect that Jupiter, and then the duet would be gone.
The Venus oppose Moon seems to also show the Virgin Mary will be taking center stage and they are putting the mother of God away up in the attic.
@Lumiere
Can you please explain your statement, it appears contradictory, is the Virgin centre stage, is she going up on a pedestal or hidden in the attic?
I think there is an ongoing debate on women in the church. Should women be seen as the mother of God or the virgin Mary? The virgin Mary might be thought of as a woman who is virtuous on her own rather than important because she gave birth to the son of God.
The virgin Mary is her maiden name not her married name. I think the chart alludes to a debate on how to represent women in the church through a debate on Mary and also it appears that finances were the big elements of the conclave debate.
I’m interested in Leo XIV’s opinion on Mary as I think it shows who won the conclave debate on women’s status and I expect he has been good managing finances too to be chosen so rapidly.
(Pope Leo mentioned that he chose Leo after Leo XIII in part to signal: https://youtu.be/7bNTm9VJjTo )
I am 28 days older than him (also moon in Virgo with a stellium in late Leo and Nodes in Gem/Sag) however I don’t think anyone would consider me young! Young at heart maybe. But I shall keep hold of that thought.
For me, the most fascinating aspect of Leo XIV is that so many people have been able to associate to him in the past 36 hours. He is from Chicago, a city with really unique identity. He is a native US and an adopted Peruvian Citizen. A private Virgo Moon, he has been reluctant to speak about his roots, but obviously, people have found them. The Creole lineage on mother’s side discovery is due “Finding Your Roots” team, and Italian genealogist may have located his paternal grandfather’s birthplace in Piedmont, making him a second pope in row having roots there.
Astrologically, I think this may tie to his Pluto-Neptune. Given he was born in Illinois, I hope the TOB will come available through birth certificate. I think that it’s possible his Moon is in Leo if not exactly, there about, conjunct Pluto. This would certainly amplify the message of someone being identifiable to large segments of people.
Personal note: I like Leon XIV’s Italian. He has an accent, but has a really thoughtful delivery. He stopped to think for a right substantive speaking. I think John Paul II always came across as not really knowing Italian because he frequently missed substantives. Benedict XVI was papery. For Francis, it was easier due to Spanish being substantive heavy language. But Leon XIV excels here.
Noting that this move to be leader occurs just ahead of transiting Uranus making its final square to his natal Leo Pluto next week.
If his Moon is in late Leo for a morning birth, transiting Uranus is hitting his Moon-Pluto conjunction. I was born nine months earlier with a Moon in Leo, so I can say this is a tough time of turbulent change. It’s the first time I am older thant the Pope. With his chart and healthy Virgo habits, he may live to a hundred or more. The longest papacy ever was 31 years. He is probably the last pope of my days.
@El Aznar yes, of course you’re so right. Thanks so very much for your insights. Without you, I’m sure I might never have known that the College of Cardinals is composed of brilliant, politically canny, well-informed, highly educated, multi-lingual, multi-cultural men. Who would have guessed?
Seriously, save your snark. I was merely trying to suggest that the decision wasn’t *just* about America, since we live in a multi-polar world.
To your other confusion: His grandparents were creoles from the melting pot of New Orleans, where “creole” traditionally can mean a) of Spanish descent, b) of French descent, c) of mixed Spanish-French descent, or d) of mixed Spanish-African or French-African descent.
According to the census, his grandfather, whose surname was “Martinez,” was born in Haiti; his grandmother’s maiden name was “Baquié.” I’m sure you can do the math for yourself, but just in case: Haiti was initially colonized by the Spanish as well as the French (look up “Republic of Spanish Haiti”). It appears that his grandparents were both Afro-Caribbean–in his grandfather’s case, also of Spanish descent, in his grandmother’s, also of French descent.
Al22, I am not snarky. I don’t know what is with your attitude and defensiveness; you were being snarky and then projected it onto me. You were also trying to school me, and you are now saying I was trying to be so to you, projecting again. You implied I was saying something I wasn’t. I was wondering – not stating. Let’s just drop this and go back to the astrology. It would be nice if you stopped creating feuds and bad atmosphere here, which is something we just barely got rid of. People come here for thoughtful comments and discussions; not bickering and battle of the brains.
Creole Black cannot mean in any way Spanish.
This is in a way muddying of facts.
The new pope’s father was Franco-Italian. His family name is common in Québec where I live. Prevost is the name of a small town here and a well-known manufacturing company.
We don’t have a birth time but we know he has three major planets in Leo, the sign of gold, which he apparently likes to wear or surround himself with, not for his personal glory like Trump but for the greater glory of God. As a former Catholic, I watch this with detachment and respect.
His natal Uranus at 0 Leo is trine the current Saturn-Neptune conjunction is Aries. We can safely expect his midheaven to be in one of these fire signs. His stellium in Virgo, including the Sun, Moon and Mars, is sextile Saturn in Scorpio square Pluto. He is built for the long haul. I expect he will be around until mid-century. Uranus in Leo will be conjunct his natal Pluto and opposite the US Moon in 2047-48. If he lives, he could play a central role in the Second American Revolution.
Well, if he does then his moon and Venus r leo since despite gold associated with leo..choices r made by moon and Venus…I found his liking and comfort with camera also leonine…very unlike virgo, who r not so happy on camera and mind u,camera captures the soul
The Pope’s brother was being interviewed, he said their grandparents came from Haiti.
I also wondered about the new Pope’s ego, but maybe it’s just good conjunctions. My Dad had that same Jupiter/Pluto conjunction in Leo and never felt insecure a day in his life. Public speaking in particular, you could ask Dad to speak in front of a thousand people with 10 minutes notice and he’d breeze right up there, unprepared, have the audience in the palm of his hand. I’ve always envied that Jupiter/Pluto confidence, I saw it again in the Pope on the balcony.
@El Azner, there’s a great line in the “Conclave” movie about how all bishops secretly in their hearts choose a name in case the papacy ever comes to them.
Marjorie, the new Pope need not be a revolutionary per se. Just being a rational example of kindness and decency in the vein of Pope Francis and the prior Pope Leo III is itself a revolutionary act against America’s Pluto Capricorn Reactionary mean streak, with Trump as its incorrigible avatar in our current, lingering era.
I’m hopeful that Pope Leo XIV will outlive MAGA and then some. He may well come to set a stark contrast between the bigotry, malice and lunacy of Trump, Vance, Loomer and the nuttery of MAGA in general, shining light on the spirit of what Americans can rise to and become in the world when they listen instead to their better angels.
Clarence, I agree with you. Being kind, quiet and decent is indeed a stark contrast to the mean, loud and venal vein of the current US president and his cult. Someone recently pointed out how Mark Carney’s quiet, dignified, sane yet steely demeanor when meeting with Trump was the perfect response because it doesn’t feed into the outrage he likes to stir up and instead seemed to unnerve him. Virgo is the sign of service to others, something Trump has shown himself to have no understanding of (famously calling fallen US servicemen suckers and losers). Pope Leo is young and apparently healthy so is likely to outlive the MAGA madness and show the world the better angels of the American spirit.
Carney has the Uranus-Pluto conjunction of the Sixties on his Virgo Ascendant. A man of service with great vision and ambition.
Agreed, Clarence. Many must be thirsting for a ‘quiet, dignified and kind’ leader for our times. It seems even non-religious folk see hope in this man.
Hear, hear! As a non-Catholic, non-believer, I’m impressed with the new Pope’s background, credentials and skillset. He seems like an excellent choice and I too hope he serves as a strong counter-example of decency, dignity, kindness, inclusion and competence in contrast to the heinous occupant of the White House.
And, Les, I too was gratified by Carney’s astute handling of Trump at their White House meeting. His gravitas appeared to overpower the infantile bully. I would much prefer to have the highly experienced and knowledgeable Carney as the American leader.
As an amusing fantasy, wouldn’t it be ironic to have Carney supplant Trump?
The Saturn-Neptune conjunction is beginning to take effect. It does not produce the most spiritual or revolutionary popes but those with a great effect on world history. At the last such conjunction in 1989, John Paul II played a key role in the events in his native Poland leading to the fall of the Berlin Wall and the non-violent dissolution of the Soviet Union. At the same time, the Dalai Lama won the Nobel Peace Prize, allowing him to reach millions in the West and to become an alternate spiritual leader. Also, Desmond Tutu, the Anglican archbishop of South Africa, was instrumental in the overthrow of apartheid. Major spiritual leaders will probably emerge with political influence in the coming year and it is likely that Leo XIV will be one of them. He is clearly the Catholic Church’s response to Trump.
This pope has already shown he has a long view of history. Trump often refers to the Gilded Age of the 1890s, when tariffs were government policy (quicky abandoned because of their disastrous effect, particularly on trade with Canada which had quickly found other partners in what was then the British Empire). The gap between rich and poor was extreme as it will become in coming years when this Saturn-Neptune conjunction squares US Venus, Jupiter and Sun. Leo XIII (Leon in French) was the pope of the Gilded Age. In 1891, the year of the Neptune-Pluto conjunction which founded the modern era, he abandoned perennial Church rhetoric in favor of a return to a bygone rural time and was the first pope who defended the rights of industrial workers, trade unions and the urban poor. He embraced social democracy and explicitly denounced both marxism and plutocrats. In 1898, he criticized what he called the American heresy of accommodating Catholic teachings to the Protestant capitalist ethic.
Leo I, one of only two popes called the Great, was even more interesting. He was pope at the time of the fall of the Roman Empire in the 5th century. He ensured that the Church would survive this cataclysmic and world-changing event. He somehow persuaded Attila the Hun, from what is now Hungary, not to enter the defenceless city of Rome which would have meant its destruction. Attila died miraculously soon after. Many have foreseen the fall of Putin during the coming year. When Stalin died in 1953, there was another Saturn-Neptune conjunction and Pope Pius XII, a staunch anti-communist, was triumphant. Leo I was also a masterful conciliator within the Church.
The great saint at the time of Leon I was Saint Augustine, the new pope’s major inspiration. Leo XIV is the first pope from the Augustinian order and its former leader. Augustine wrote one of the foundational books of Western civilization, his Confessions, in which he relates his transformation from a cultured and privileged young man who was a Roman citizen into a humble Christian who founded the first monastic orders and emphasized community life. Leo may see his own life path in the same way.
See, this also makes me wary of the ego when you choose a name to be seen as someone who had a big influence. And not something modest, and then we shall see, and you may surprise us.
might be to bolster his courage (virgo diffidence)
Absolutely, hollow needs grandiose to hide it’s cowardice
Thanks for this ..we r all beginning to feel the fear of saturn Neptune and Pluto in Aquarius and uranus is also near change…reading history seems beacon of light at end of tunnel and high tides r followed by long calm waters
@El Aznar, with respect, I think that’s a misreading of the quote from St. Augustine. The new pope is an Augustinian, and he appears to be acknowledging his spiritual formation and roots while asserting that he will follow the Augustinian model of service, which is submission to those served–so, basically, exactly the opposite of being a ruler in the traditional sense.
Speaking as a Chicagoan, I am so thrilled by this choice, and people here are jubilant. The good-natured Chicago-pope jokes are flying–especially the ones expressing hopes for divine intervention on behalf of the Chicago Bears! It’s such a happy event, and it feels like a balm for a city (and a state, Illinois) that DJT is trying to punish for our pro-immigrant, pro-worker, pro-“ordinary people” policies and orientation. DJT hates so-called “sanctuary cities” like Chicago. (And to be fair, Chicago hates DJT right back.)
There’s also a bit of unintended poetry in the timing for us, since the day before the papal announcement, the head of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem (popularly known as “ICE Barbie”) traveled through Chicago on her way to the state capitol, where she conducted a staged event intended to dramatically publicize the alleged dangers of “sanctuary” policies and illegal immigration. (In her speech, Noem used the murder of a local woman, Emma Shafer, as a pretext to demonize immigrants, apparently unaware that Ms. Shafer was a pro-immigrant activist whose mother was among a group of counter-protesters present.)
More importantly, the new pope’s deep connection to Latin America seems especially significant, since Latin America hosts the largest numbers of Catholics on the planet, and Latin Americans have been special targets of maga’s anti-immigrant cruelty. (Leo XIV actually has dual U.S.-Peruvian citizenship, and is reportedly fluent in both Spanish and Portuguese.)
The man’s spiritual and temporal qualifications aside, his election feels like a delicious, much-deserved symbolic thumb in the eye of fascists and bigots generally and of DJT and maga in particular. I hope Leo truly does turn out to be another “people’s pope.”
It would be interesting to see how his chart aligns with those of pro-democracy movements in Latin America, or with that of the late Archbishop Oscar Romero of El Salvador, who was murdered for his outspoken advocacy of social justice. (Is it a coincidence that DJT’s gulags are in El Salvador?)
I wasn’t stating – I was asking.
Also weird that the Vatican release says his mother is of Spanish descent, and in the Chicago Sun Times and The New York Times gives his maternal grandparents are Black Creole who moved from Louisiana to Chicago.
Where did then the Spanish descent come from in an official release?
And the election is not a thumb in the eye – it is very likely a very calculated and thought-through decision of 133 superclever people who have multiple degrees, doctorates, and speak a bajillion languages. Also very well-versed in politics, diplomacy, spying, and human psychology.
I’d love to look at Chicago’s natal/founding chart, and Illinois’ chart as well right now. Seems like some lights are emerging there and sending beams through the dark clouds of the Trump-Musk-MAGA regime that have settled over the land.
Along with Pope Leo XIV, Gov. JB Pritzker comes to mind here also as someone who has consistently and forcefully pushed back against Trump. New leaders indeed seem to be emerging in unlikely places.
I reckon this Pope is one cool, tough Chicago dude ! That little smile! Come to kick Trump’s nuts along with Carney. Problem for Trump is his missus is a staunch Catholic. She won’t be hearing nothing against him at the dinner table.
I wish him well – he’s so young (!) for a Pope – be interesting to watch how effective he becomes. Saturn in 6th could also point to responsible service.
What do you think about the Moon in the 12th?
Not sure El, Francis election chart – Moon in 7th, Benedict – not sure but John Paul II – Moon in 12th as well. I’m not knowledgeable about his legacy but it might be interesting.
That Saturn in the sixth of the election might speak about a lot of frustration (Saturn) in daily life (of the papacy? The Church during this pontification?), and Venus–Neptune about insincerities (Neptune) about money (and maybe women [Venus], and women don’t look good in that election in other ways too). Neptune is also a kind of health-problems harbinger, in a way, in the sixth.
I also wonder about his ego – his papal robes are a statement, and I was a little taken aback with that St. Augustine quote, a Christian among you, a bishop for you.
Does he mean ‘I am your majesty to you’ or ‘I am at your service as a bishop for you’?
Then this whole weird business of him discussing a possible name he’d choose if elected… As if he was preparing. And you have to have an ego to think about it, hope/consider so much so that you think about the name, and ultimately you accept.
Or he has the qualifications for the top job, faced his capability and willingness to step up, and prepared accordingly?
Ever since I saw that Mercury–Chiron conjunction, and so close to an axis, I wonder what might it be. And maybe there was a hint, as he got a bit lost, stumbled for a moment, on the balcony, and I wonder what other wound (Chiron) in communication (Mercury, which is also the planet of youth, young people) will pop up, especially since it is in the 7th house, of other people, partners etc.