Neptune moves out of Pisces into Aries in 2025 to stay until 2038 which is an odd contradiction of religious/creative and self-assertive energy.
Looking back to past occurrences: (I have incorporated suggestions from comments below for ease of finding later.)
1044 to 1056 AD – Westminster Abbey was founded, The Great Schism between the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Churches. Edward the Confessor was King of England.
1208 to 1221 – the Magna Carta was signed, University of Cambridge founded.
1372 to 1383 – The Western Schism with two men both claiming to be Pope, the Bible was translated into English, England Peasants’ Revolt.
There are some interesting synchronicities. In 1216 Henry III came to the throne and in 1377 Richard II came to the throne. Both were children and had to deal with unrest one fermented by a French invasion sponsored by the City of London, the other by the Peasant’s revolt.
1525 to 1547 – Anne Boleyn was Queen of England just before, then beheaded. Elizabeth Tudor was born. Anabaptist rebellion in Germany. The rebellion Pilgrimage of Grace in 1536 was the most serious Tudor uprising against Henry V111’s break with Rome.
1699 to 1712 – War of Spanish Succession, Union of Scotland and England. Huguenot Rebellion. 1702-3 Quebec epidemic, where smallpox killed thousands. 1702 King William III of England died from a fall off a horse, and his sister-in-law Anne become Queen (The Favorite).
1703: Middle Italy had three killer earthquakes, on the Mercalli scale of VIII (severe), X and XI (extreme), with great loss of life.
1863 to 1875 – US Civil War. Unification of Germany and Italy. Red Cross founded and Yellowstone Park opened. 1865 to 1869 advanced the rights of African-Americans, being granted freedom in ’65, citizenship in ‘68 and in 1870 the right to vote. This led to an ugly backlash with the Opelousas Massacre in 1868 and the formation of the KKK in ‘65 to ‘71.
Canada was founded in 1867. [Neptune was in Aries or Libra for every US Uranus in Gemini return, which coincided each time so far with major armed conflict (the War of Independence, the Civil War, D-Day). The next one is in 2027-2028. Canada was deeply affected by all three.]
Neptune in Aries certainly seems pivotal for English history, as well as for the Vatican; and also appears to produce iconic national symbols like the Magna Carta, Westminster Abbey and Yellowstone Park.
On only two occasions was Saturn in Aries at the same time as we have in 2025. They were running concurrently in Aries from June 1379 to May 1380 with the Peasants Revolt coming in 1381 as it was waning. And again June 1702 to December 1703.
Any historian comments gratefully received. Usually Saturn Neptune conjunctions or hard aspects support the underdogs – so women and workers issues come to the forefront, and it can also accompany epidemics.
Important time periods in Nordic History, too. I – or we in general – do not have that much information on the first two periods, although 1040s and 1050s were the tailend of Viking Period, considered to have finished with Battle of Stamford Bridge in 1066.
From Solaia on Nordic history:
But 1370s and 1380s were some of the most turbulant times in Nordic History, with very weak monarchies and strong nobility feuding, and eventually leading to formation of Kalmar Union in 1397. This was not all bad, since possibly the wealthiest man in Nordic Countries before Modern Times Bo Jonsson Grip was at the peak of his power and very forward thinking.
Kalmar Union, of course, collapsed in the 1520’s, but resulted to almost constant state of war between established Danish and newly founded Swedish Monarchies during this Neptune in Aries. Ironically, both Danish and Swedish Monarchies decided to adopt new Lutheran faith during this time, Sweden first in 1527, Denmark after the death of Fredrick II, who remained Catholic until his death.
1699 to 1712 was the beginning of Great Northern War, and initially successful under “Warrior King” Charles XII. There was a fortune in Battle of Poltava disfortune, though, since Charles XII fled to Ottoman Empire, where his chefs were introduced to köfte and those became Swedish Meatballs (seriously, someone traced this and concluded meatballs first appeared in Sweden only after Charles’ adventures). On a not so delightful not, there was a wide spread plague epidemic in Nordic Countries around 1710, spread by refugees from Baltics.
1860’s and 1870’s were, in many ways, when Nordic Societies as we would know them were established. Many Astrologers prefer to use the 1866 Chart for Sweden, and it definitely does explain the shift from what had been the most belligerent state in Europe to the one that has enjoyed longest continues time of peace in the continent. 1860’s also saw Autonomous Grand Duchy of Finland establishing many of the institutions that carried all the way to Independence and to this day. Most importantly, Language Diet of 1863, which required introduction of Finnish Language to public business and later to state offices within 20 years. Downside, The Last Peace Time Famine Disaster in Europe, 1867 and particularly early in 1868, which killed tenth of the population in Finland.
See that the Spanish flu epidemic in 1918-1919 was when Saturn Conjuncted Neptune in Leo!
So Canada will be having its 1st Neptune return, interesting!
Correction: Neptune in Aries is on Canada’s Ascendant, not MC. Saturn-Pluto are now on its MC.
Important time periods in Nordic History, too. I – or we in general – do not have that much information on the first two periods, although 1040s and 1050s were the tailend of Viking Period, considered to have finished with Battle of Stamford Bridge in 1066.
But 1370s and 1380s were some of the most turbulant times in Nordic History, with very weak monarchies and strong nobility feuding, and eventually leading to formation of Kalmar Union in 1397. This was not all bad, since possibly the wealthiest man in Nordic Countries before Modern Times Bo Jonsson Grip was at the peak of his power and very forward thinking.
Kalmar Union, of course, collapsed in the 1520’s, but resulted to almost constant state of war between established Danish and newly founded Swedish Monarchies during this Neptune in Aries. Ironically, both Danish and Swedish Monarchies decided to adopt new Lutheran faith during this time, Sweden first in 1527, Denmark after the death of Fredrick II, who remained Catholic until his death.
1699 to 1712 was the beginning of Great Northern War, and initially successful under “Warrior King” Charles XII. There was a fortune in Battle of Poltava disfortune, though, since Charles XII fled to Ottoman Empire, where his chefs were introduced to köfte and those became Swedish Meatballs (seriously, someone traced this and concluded meatballs first appeared in Sweden only after Charles’ adventures). On a not so delightful not, there was a wide spread plague epidemic in Nordic Countries around 1710, spread by refugees from Baltics.
1860’s and 1870’s were, in many ways, when Nordic Societies as we would know them were established. Many Astrologers prefer to use the 1866 Chart for Sweden, and it definitely does explain the shift from what had been the most belligerent state in Europe to the one that has enjoyed longest continues time of peace in the continent. 1860’s also saw Autonomous Grand Duchy of Finland establishing many of the institutions that carried all the way to Independence and to this day. Most importantly, Language Diet of 1863, which required introduction of Finnish Language to public business and later to state offices within 20 years. Downside, The Last Peace Time Famine Disaster in Europe, 1867 and particularly early in 1868, which killed tenth of the population in Finland (including at least two of my elderly ancestors and some of my still young ancestors siblings).
So, interesting times with altering fortunes.
Sorry meant read a lot of papers predicting this is will happen re Canada/U.S. merger.
That’s a frightening thought. The only way I could see that Canada would be “incorporated” with the US of A is thru unwilling annexation.
Wouldn’t be surprised if it means more amalgamations of Countries/Nations/States.
Read a lot and believe Canada and the U.S., will merge and form 1 new Federal type system 1 day.
There are some interesting synchronicities. In 1216 Henry III came to the throne and in 1377 Richard II came to the throne. Both were children and had to deal with unrest one fermented by a French invasion sponsored by the City of London , the other by the Peasant’s revolt. As I remember the 1530’s were marked by other rebellions including the Pilgrimage of Grace. It would be neat to include the Scots 1715 rebellion but that does not fit.
Marjorie’s notice of epidemics: 1702-3 Quebec, where smallpox killed thousands. As for favoring women, 1702 saw King William III of England die from a fall off a horse, and his sister-in-law Anne become Queen (Anne was the subject of the movie The Favorite).
1703: Middle Italy had three killer earthquakes, on the Mercalli scale of VIII (severe), X and XI (extreme), with great loss of life.
England had severe damage from a hurricane. In Japan, the 47 Ronin (movie of the same name) assassinated Kira Yoshinaka, and 46 commit seppuku.
Not a historian, but an aficionado of odd facts.
The times are changing….let’s hope that Trumpites have become extinct. Those times look too fertile for a god-king to rise.
Dunno, larryc, he could try that dual Pope thing and challenge Francis for the Papacy
Oh please, don’t! We’re living in the times where ANYTHING is possible. Perhaps we might live long enough to even see Kanye as POTUS and Kim Kardashian as First Lady? I hope if that ever happens I will have slid off this toilet seat called modern life and have my soul hurtled across the galaxies to somewhere a little more less aggressive than this social media and fame obsessed / political deceiving planet called earth!
Or, following Alois Bern Mullers idea, a Canada / US Merge with Justin Trudeau and Melania Trump ruling Isabella and Ferdinand Style. They could send that Space Ship to Mars. 😀
Neptune in Aries will make a couple of outer planet aspects over the late 2020’s into the 2030’s. Initially, it will make a conjunction with Saturn in Aries at zero degrees in 2025. A very significant marker, and as Marjorie points out, one that has been associated with peasant revolts or people power revolutions. Mars in Libra and Jupiter in Cancer over the summer of that year aspecting Saturn and Neptune in Aries seems to suggest protests, a lot of cardinal action. It can be seen as a reaction to the current period of Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn, which favors the autocrat, oligopoly and top-down solutions. The aspects of the 2020’s are definitely a stark contrast from the current epoch. Saturn and Neptune will be ingressing together into Aries, while Pluto moves into Aquarius in 2023 and Uranus will be also moving into Gemini mid-decade, where it will sextile Neptune in Aries.
The large amount of outer planet ingresses in a short amount of time signals a period of intense change. These are high-flying transits, featuring a more decentralized approach to governance and corporate organization, lots of technological developments, especially in aerospace and communications, even political revolution in some cases. Also there’s a prospect for military adventurism, particularly in 2027, when Mars takes a long retrograde cycle in Virgo, squaring Uranus in Gemini. This is a transit that is active during the US Uranus return, which historically has signaled a time of war for the US, e.g. Civil War and WW2. In short, we can expect conflicts, civil unrest and major technological developments in the next decade. Markets will be volatile, but riding higher, especially 2026-29. Efficiencies generated from new technologies will initially boost the economy during that period.
As we move into the mid-to-late 2030’s, Uranus, now in Cancer, will move to square Neptune in Aries. This strikes me as more of a nationalistic transit, where people are willing to fight for their homeland. There’s some misplaced idealism with this type of transit that needs to be accounted for. Leaders manipulating the masses to their own ends. That aspect will be preceded by Saturn conjuncting Uranus in late-Gemini and early Cancer in 2033, then Saturn in Leo opposing Pluto in Aquarius in 2034-35, which can be a tyrannical placement favoring geopolitical conflict, both transits also reinforce that theme of nationalism in public life. It’s possible that the late 2030’s will feature a reaction to the fast-changing, progressive dynamic of the 2020’s. The pendulum will continue to swing from the hard-right to the hard-left until it finds some sort of equilibrium after the Uranus/Pluto opposition in the mid-2040’s, in my view.
1865 – 1869 was a period of some advancement for the rights of African-Americans. Granted freedom in ‘65 and citizenship in ‘68 and the 15th Amendment, ratified in 1870 gave African-Americans the right to vote. We also see an ugly backlash to this progress in the form of the Opelousas Massacre in 1868 and the foundation of the KKK in ‘65 to ‘71.
Canada was founded in 1867 during the last transit of Neptune in Aries, which lies on its MC. Also, Neptune was in Aries or Libra for every US Uranus in Gemini return, which coincided each time so far with major armed conflict (the War of Independence, the Civil War, D-Day).The next one is in 2027-2028. Canada was deeply affected by all three.